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that don't go towards your record. What are the actual games in the knockout round? So when they go to Vegas, whoever wins the championship is going to play three more games than everybody else.
Speaker 2:Yo, we gonna have to go to Vegas one day. Man Like this is the reason to go to Vegas, like if this is a thing and it's in Vegas each year, is it gonna be in Vegas?
Speaker 1:each year. It should be in Vegas every year.
Speaker 2:We gonna have to go to Vegas next year.
Speaker 1:Because the actual thing starts this week. The Vegas portion of it starts this week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we gonna have to go to Vegas next year and I ain't saying to catch a game, but just maybe being a bar that has the game. You know what I mean Like just to kind of be in that energy to a degree.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I would love to do that. That's another reason for me to go. Everybody welcome to another episode of the important of us podcast. We did not pour one out for Duchenne and Sully speaking of all of their own views.
Speaker 1:No, we did not. It you know the same.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna drink one to him right now. I'm gonna drink him. This is dedicated to them.
Speaker 1:This is a what are you drinking?
Speaker 2:Who's that saying? Peach, Hold up. What am I drinking? I'm drinking peach. It might as well just be a sangria, Peach, black tea and white wine mixed with rum.
Speaker 1:Man, we got so recorded in person so I can tell you some of this shit should be concocted yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Listen man.
Speaker 1:I know how many writers like nah, fuck all that shit.
Speaker 2:Probably not, no, probably not, no more.
Speaker 1:Probably not, no more. I had to return all your shit to you.
Speaker 2:You know, it seems to be working out in the 30 minutes of technical difficulties that we just had.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it happens sometimes, you know. I mean, what can you say? It happens Right now. I'm trying to be cool and have a back screen, like you. Like it's starting to look a lot better.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I can't see you hey look man call me your phasing in and out.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I'm the Casper, the Blackass Goose. How about that?
Speaker 2:You look like you are in the big bag. Beetleborg's haunted house Hillhurst, I think it was called, of course, and yeah, I'm looking for Flabber. That was his name or whatever the fuck his name. Was that in Michael Jackson's? Who does the guy name to fuck up his game? Dominican baseball player.
Speaker 1:I ain't talking about Sammy Sosa.
Speaker 2:Sammy Sosa looking. Yeah, michael Jackson, he's looking fucking thing. Shout out to Sammy, I ain't even like that. He fucked Yo. You've seen him lately, right, yeah, he white White as a.
Speaker 1:He white as a ghost out, this motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Oh God, why do people do that to their skin, man?
Speaker 1:he knows who knows.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know they've been saying that about Beyonce or this Renaissance thing. I know you, I know wifey heard about that. People tell them on the internet. Some of she's lightened her skin just for the Whatever is going on, I don't we paying attention to. Yeah, I'm we paying attention to shit like that? I see a headline and yeah, so Beyonce, fuck all the Mators.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Beyonce Fuck all the haters. I'm not Beyonce fan, though.
Speaker 2:Either and I'm not. I'm not a fan fan, but still shut out there. She going to think, yeah, she going to think.
Speaker 1:Oh, she got like a motion picture out of like a of her concerts, some shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so last recording was trash because of the dough talk, Right? Uh, I was Thanksgiving with anybody into the technical difficulties on. You know I was like that would happen. Yeah, like I don't know why what happened. We went to Cape Pot.
Speaker 1:We went and had a Korean Thanksgiving on.
Speaker 2:But it made you cook your own foods, which you're telling me.
Speaker 1:Well yes. Yeah, but you know they enjoy this. So it was. It was Gucci, you know. I mean, it didn't help that I was like getting sick and I had like the ridiculous sore throat afterwards, which is funny because at first you know how like you can feel the cold coming and just moving through your, your lungs and your in your throat and your in your head and like I'm sitting there and I'm like you know what, I'm gonna get sick. Anyway, fuck it, I'm gonna drink this liquor. So I drank some liquor.
Speaker 2:But you about to say I ain't gonna wash my hands Like yo. What?
Speaker 1:I said, man, fuck, I'm gonna drink this liquor. And I had the worst. The sore throat was so bad. Ok, luckily I was off Wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday, sunday, because Saturday at 2 am I went to the doctor's like, look, I need you out to tell me if this is stripping. That's how bad it was. It felt like strap, so it wasn't sure it wasn't a strap.
Speaker 1:No they were just like we think you just got a sore throat. So what you have to do is take some nightquill, a Tylenol or an and or and or some ibuprofen 800. I was taking three ibuprofen 800 plus eight nightquills. Ok, three dayquills and one night.
Speaker 2:Three days, three nights three days, one night.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. I was taking that shit and then when I got back to work, you know, you got. You got this sore throat and you got to, you got to speak, you got to train. So I'm doing training for people for shelter operations and I'm up there like, oh, this is horrible. I'm sitting there talking and people just looking at me like they could you go die. You know, I'm like trying to say words and I couldn't say the words because my throat wouldn't let me. I'm like, and then we have to do the. You know, yeah, it was horrible.
Speaker 2:That's one. That's one of the like when it comes to like, like the when your body gets sick, that's one of the things I hate the most is the sore throat thing, like the fucking worse and the stuff he knows.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then this is how stubborn I am when it comes to certain things, like I didn't know that you can buy medicine to shoot up in your nose to clear your nose when you have a stuffy nose so you can sleep better. Now, me being me and me thinking that looks like drugs shooting shit in your nose, I'd rather suffer than do that sometimes. And it was up it's up until I got my mind, not even up until I met my wife. We got married and years into the marriage I was just like fuck it, I'd give me the shit that you use and I can't take the shit. So now I use whatever that is. I can't. Now I need my sleep, man.
Speaker 1:I tried it. I tried to do it like get the little thing you shoot up in your nose but like it, go up in there and then you can fill it in the back of your throat.
Speaker 2:Oh nigga, I'm like fuck it, I need that shit.
Speaker 1:Look, I drugged up and took and drank chamomile tea and went to sleep every night.
Speaker 2:It's a way to go. So I got no Thanksgiving weird Thanksgiving stories. My Thanksgiving was pretty mouth, it was, it was. It was Thanksgiving family fights. Only one I remember having was like I don't think I would spoke on this to about to anybody.
Speaker 2:I ain't even tell my mom that shit happened. It should happen. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I didn't tell my mom they should have a. It should have happened after she left, actually.
Speaker 2:So this long story short was that one my aunt's house. I came over there like afterwards and everybody was just kind of wrapping up and shit like that and my aunt and her daughter getting into like a verbal altercation and started a fight, almost almost fight, and then I go see the rest because it makes everybody look bad. But yeah, I was just like wow, but that was like years ago, that's the only thing, and it was kind of mild for my family. So, right, I ain't ever seen a shit like that. Not, I've never seen you know shit like that. But my, yeah, I don't witness that. Shit like that. You know where this is being mean and snarky to you know, to people, and shit like that. Like I don't get that. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people that do, but I ain't witness it. We play Mario, we get food.
Speaker 1:Did you get your double XP Thanksgiving for 2K?
Speaker 2:Oh no, I didn't. No, you know I didn't. No, I did. I played 2K on Thanksgiving there, actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, you have 99, yet I'm 95.
Speaker 1:95.
Speaker 2:It's tough man, it'd be fucking work, but the tip that you gave me does fucking work. It's just that I got to sit down and fucking dedicate the time to do it.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what, if you, if you play, if you do the key games, you got to play the whole game. But if you play anything other than the key games, after you get your points, I generally simulate out like acts, acts of sit down.
Speaker 2:So basically they say once you up by like 25 or something, just send out with your shit.
Speaker 1:So like, if you so, let's say, your goal is to get 30 rebounds in a game with another 50 points and like 10 assists my goal is to get average 40, 40 points before the you know, 40 points a game.
Speaker 2:That's my, that's always been my goal, and like 15 rebounds or something like that Right Double double. Basically I'd be lucky to get 10 assists, and you know I mean a triple double. They be home when it comes to that shit.
Speaker 1:But but in essence that would. That would be what you're aiming for. So when you get those things, like you get to your average, you can send them out, just so you should not burn in time, like at a certain point, because I go about 25. Within like the first quarter of the game yeah, you know, and that's because I'm a small forward. So then I got what you've already seen me play. You, I have decently good defense, surprisingly in my head, but decently good defense where it's like all right, well, my guy's not scoring, everyone else is, but they're. You know, the computer missed shots and it's like all right, cool, whatever.
Speaker 2:So your guy doesn't score.
Speaker 1:No, I got score my guy Once I turn my shot meter off. My guy is averaging close about a little over in between like 85, 90 points a game. Yeah, yeah, I take a lot of shots, a lot of shots. You know, it don't matter what I'm doing. I'm like give me the ball, give me the ball, let me shoot, because you know I'm trying to get my shot perfected for when I go on the wreck.
Speaker 2:So basically you that that legendary mean where it's like that picture of Kobe, and now my fucking computer, that picture of Kobe and it's just like all square, all square buttons. Yeah, no, x button, just all squares.
Speaker 1:All square? I'm sure I'm not a fucking.
Speaker 1:No average 18 to 19, 18 to 20 assists and like 12 rebounds. But I get, I get all of my 18 to 19 assists in the first half, the first half, second half. I could be the shit out of shit, just all square button. Like I look when it gets a half time and this is, I only have 25 points, 17 assists and six rebounds. Man, look, I'm only getting rebounds and points. So that's what, that's what I do, that's what I do. But I got you, I'm building a center built. So you know me, I'm an old school center.
Speaker 1:I don't feel like I need to step out to the perimeter and shoot, but apparently everyone's like no, no, no, you need to be able to go out there and at least be a threat from the outside. I'm like man that's taken away from stats I can use you know what I'm saying Like I'm not a shooter and I put in perspective like this so if I don't have a three point rating of like higher than 41, that's a step that I can put into, like my speed to like run the floor, okay. So if someone's some dumbass decides they're going to shoot a three and I need to get back on defense and try and block a shot, I can get back. You know what I'm saying. I can't do that with a 63 or a 65, 66, 67. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, if I wanted to get an 82 dunking rating, I could do that.
Speaker 1:If I take my three point shooting down, or if I wanted to get the bulldozer badge where I had to put my ball with speed up to like I think 40. And then I think my ball handling was like 55. I could do that with that. But everyone's like no, no, no, you gotta have the three point shooting, you gotta have three point shooting. So I got a like three point shooting at like 76 for a center. I'm like I'm. I know for sure I'm not going to be shooting a damn ball, but you never know what you're going to have.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I never know what I'm going to have to, but at 76 and 2K especially this 2K if I'm going to be a big man, I might as well take my mid range there. I might as well rearrange my whole thing, take down my mid range and put my three point up as high as I can for that, because if I'm going to be a threat, then I'm going to be a threat. You know what I'm saying. Like I'm not going to be no play threat. I'm not going to be no, I could knock it down if I'm. If I get my timing right now, I'm going to take my mid range down to like a 65 or so, maybe, look, maybe lower, or, and then put my three point as high as you can go to get it to. Like I might even adjust the bill so that I can get my three point rating at like 90 something or as high as I can get it.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's one of those things like, if I'm going to be a threat to shoot the ball, then I'm going to be a fucking threat to shoot the ball. Right, I don't want to be no potential, I want to be a potential. I want to be a potential. I want to be no potential threat, I want to be. I want to be the threat. Yeah, I want to be Kevin Love.
Speaker 2:That's actually what my player is right now, fucking Kevin Love. No, nothing about it. No, you've been watching any of the NBA uh playing games? I'm not the play in the uh tournament games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I watched them they're. They're actually pretty good, there they are.
Speaker 2:I've been, well, I've been watching clips. I have not been, I have not watched the full game yet. Because you know even though it was narrowing down as much as they're like.
Speaker 1:Oh well, you know we don't like the playing game or the tournament in season tournament games. They still go towards their record. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So it's just like extra incentive to basically which is genius is more or less like we need to make sure that our fans stay engaged. Uh, because you're playing for, you're still playing for a trophy, it's just that you're getting a particular trophy sooner. So it's just kind of like you're going to see um, you want to see harder play, harder plays, more intelligent plays, shit like that.
Speaker 2:I can't win the championship, I won this. If I win both, that means I dogged or we dogged the whole. We dogged the whole NBA to see we won both of these motherfuckers.
Speaker 1:Because the only, the only, the only games that don't, that don't go towards your record would are the actual games in the knockout round. So when they go to Vegas, whoever wins the championship is going to play three more games than everybody else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we want to go to Vegas one day. Man Like this is the reason to go to Vegas. Like if this is the thing and is in Vegas each year, is it going to be in?
Speaker 1:Vegas each year. It should be in Vegas every year.
Speaker 2:We want to go to Vegas next year because the the actual thing starts this week.
Speaker 1:The Vegas portion of it starts this week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we want to go to Vegas next year, and I ain't saying to catch a game, but just maybe being a bar that has the game. You know what I mean, like just to kind of be in that, that energy to a degree.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I would love to do that. That's another reason for me to go. Yeah, I ain't even fucking gambling or the you know all that other shit. Football, the Raiders I'm not a Raiders fan, but just you know the NFL is there.
Speaker 1:Right, so we. Yeah, the end season tournament is funny because I was like when you look at who's in the actual end season tournament, they're not even the best teams in each conference. Like the paces went four and oh so then I was going to say that they've been looking good.
Speaker 2:They've been looking good for the end season portion of it.
Speaker 1:They, they, they, dog people. And I'm like yo, like you, went four and oh in this, which is four, and oh, in the regular season, you know, on their stats, but they're still in the middle of that. They're still like number seven in the Eastern conference with the number one seed in the end season tournament. Yeah, so it's like I mean that's.
Speaker 1:It almost reminds me of like a like college basketball, where you have a team that's like ranked, that's ranked super high in like the country, but when it comes to their division, like in the ACC like, you have teams that's like oh yeah, duke, duke's only lost three games, but it'd be three, two of those games to like to like a North Carolina, and when you look at the standards, you're like well, according to the, the country's rated and you know Duke's, duke is higher than North Carolina, but Duke will be at a lower rank than North Carolina because they're basing it on your conference play versus what your, you know what your overall record is. So that's why you know and it's funny, I always look at them like well, I'll be looking at teams like how are you number three, but you got a way better record than this person, but that's, that's how you, how you, ended up sitting in your conference. So it's always interesting to me how they try to come up with these things. But this ACC is in tournament is not bad.
Speaker 1:I do like. I like them, courts and my, my, my yo, I just thought about that.
Speaker 2:I was like it's the courts, but you know where that comes from. Don't they look like the big three to you?
Speaker 1:Yep, it's the big three.
Speaker 2:It's the big three.
Speaker 1:You know what's. You know what's even funnier is I didn't play none of my N-season tournament games on on 2K until they updated it to where the N-season tournament courts were in 2K.
Speaker 2:I played, I played. When was that?
Speaker 1:Cause I haven't seen that yet. I just started. They started on Friday.
Speaker 2:Oh well, I ain't playing since then.
Speaker 1:So Cause a new season started Friday and the update put the N-season tournament arenas of each team in there. And when I say you know, at first, when I, when I did the N-season tournament games in my part my first season, my first two seasons, I'm sorry, come on my third season yeah, when I did one of the games, it was just my regular arena I was like man, fuck this. Well I'm, I'm watching this on TV for real. Like, yeah, I don't even get the real arena. Fuck this, my team's going to win the whole thing anyway. I don't give a fuck, yeah, I mean. And so when they updated it, I said, all right, let me see what it is.
Speaker 1:And when I got the player in that court man, I ain't going to hold you it was nice. It was nice. It was nice seeing the court like playing on it. It reminded me of the old Houston Rockets floor where, like on the outside of everything, it was like mario, but when you got inside the three-point line it was all red. Yeah, like it was like on the inside it was all colored up and everything. It reminded me of that and I like that old Rockets arena where they had that, like that's one of my favorite arenas where it's like you know, you know if you're shooting the two because you're inside on that red, but when you, you know. So.
Speaker 2:Do you think that? Do you think the NBA will ever incorporate a three on three league?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Why not?
Speaker 1:Because that three on three league will be so less. So let's say they did decide to do a three on three league, right?
Speaker 1:It's in the Olympics You're very, you're very first year that they did a three on three league. You know the big name players will do it. And then, after that first year, you'll get like the guys who don't get a lot of minutes in time, Like people that like, look, I ain't about to go out there and burn myself out and I'm going to go out here and you know, I'm going to play these, these regular games, and then you look, y'all niggas go over there and play that. Y'all niggas that need that need to get better because nobody wants to risk that injury.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that big name players have to. Let's just say, let's just say right now, right, let's just say if it existed. I'm not saying Kevin DeRent has to play in that three on three, I wouldn't even expect him to play in that three on three, but I'm saying like just a new league, these are no names, Everybody's a no name. And then they and then they kind of just if they can rise to whoever rise to the occasion and become a superstar, they become a superstar.
Speaker 1:Now, nba won't. The NBA won't do it. The only way the NBA will do it is if they really saw that they could mark it behind it to make it, it's an Olympic.
Speaker 2:it's an Olympic sport.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are still amateurs though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, but but the yeah you're right, those are still amateur like but the professionals play in the Olympics, so yeah, no, the Olympics is for amateurs.
Speaker 1:The only exception they've had that they've made is for the NBA, because no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:the Olympics is not for amateurs. The Olympics are for professionals. Is that we? It's just that in basketball we will send our college students. We used to, we don't even do that anymore. We send our professionals, because everyone sends their professionals, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I always thought the NBA, I thought, I always thought the Olympics were amateurs.
Speaker 2:No, because these are real.
Speaker 1:These are they professionally do it Not, I think about it, because when they sent the dream team and they were dog and everybody, it hit me. I was like so wait, you mean you guys had the best players in the world and you didn't go out here and dominate them for.
Speaker 2:The reason why? Yeah, that they didn't do it and our college students was doing it. We in basketball, we sent our you know a certain sports. Yeah, we sent our amateurs what I'm called boxing Most boxing you don't send.
Speaker 1:They sent their amateurs yeah. They didn't send professionals because Tyson went, Mayweather went. You had quite a few people that went.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they weren't professional.
Speaker 1:Well, you sent a professional. Well, you know what, if you start sending a professional fighter, you get. You imagine Tyson Fury going to the Olympics and fighting in the heavyweight division Like it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's different, though that means you got to send your best heavyweight.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm getting at. It only started. Well, basketball only recently started with that where, like you know the FIBA organization, you know they send in their, you know they send in their best. They ain't sending the amateurs. But yeah, when it comes to that track and field and stuff like that, you're saying Bolt is not an amateur, he's a professional. You know what I mean? Like he does that professionally, yeah. So well, yeah, man, I don't know, I don't. I'm just. I was just wondering. They'll never do it only because of IceQ. They don't want that on their, on their. They don't want that on their. They're like yo, you just copied a black man and just blah, blah, blah, it's the bad press. So they would never do it as much as they probably think they probably should have done it. They could never do it. Now, they just totally wanted to look like a shitty company, a shitty organization. The best thing that they could do is buy IceQ about and just literally called the league the big three.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the. That's literally the big three by NBA or whatever. I have you. That's the. That's look. I'm all four through on three. So what I did as a kid is what I did as an adult. That's what I did as a teenager through on three. So so we really did five on five. Who the fuck got time running up and down?
Speaker 1:So up until 1986, only amateurs were allowed to be in the Olympics. In 1986, they changed the rules to where professionals could go in there. Now, mind you, mind you, the dream team. That comes to 1992.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were sending our college students because we like we too good, until we got into that college who was getting dog, and it was like oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going on now? The other you know, other people on the you know, and other countries are this much better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Cause let's see who did the. I think that's right, Cause that night. So in 1986, when they did change it in 1988, the U? S ended up not winning the gold.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um. The people on that team were Christian.
Speaker 1:William William Anderson. Stacey Augman you know him. He played for the Hawks Um. Bimbo Cole's. Jeff Grayner, herschel Hawkins we know him because you know he played for the sons and the sixes. Dan Marley, danny Manning, you know him. Big time legend GR Reed. Mitch Richmond you remember him from Sacramento, I don't. Charles Smith, um, he played for Boston and the Timberwolves Um, and then you had Charles D Smith, okay, so you had two Charles Smiths on the team he played. Charles D Smith played for the Clippers Um, and guess who was the biggest name on this team? Take a wild guess. It's a wild, wildest guess you could think of in 1988. No-transcript.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:David Robinson.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. Yeah, I keep forgetting the. I remember watching the first time the, that game, the first time, the first time the Spurs won the championship. Was that the first time? What they were all saying when is last year?
Speaker 1:Nope, it was the lockout year.
Speaker 2:That wasn't the first, so the Spurs won the Spurs won the championship before Tim Duncan came.
Speaker 1:Yes, no.
Speaker 2:So it's all the same year, so in 1999. Yeah, I watched Tim.
Speaker 1:Duncan was a rookie that year.
Speaker 2:Right and David Robinson was on his way out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they Robinson didn't. David Robinson didn't leave until 2003.
Speaker 2:Oh, so he's, I don't remember that. So he stayed one more year.
Speaker 1:He stayed two more years, four more years. So they won the NBA championship in 1999 and then they won again in 2003 when they when they beat the Nets that's what they did in the beating the Nets in the finals. He was gone though 2003. That was David Robinson's last year, so he got two rings. You got two rings.
Speaker 2:Always, though, yeah one he got.
Speaker 1:he got his asterisk wing, his asterisk ring when they had to lock out in 1999 and he got his real ring in 2003.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when we want to stop doing this.
Speaker 1:I asked for shit, so the Lakers, the Lakers bubble shit is a. There you go, she is an asterisk, look. Look, you heard. You heard what a. You heard what a? Lou Wilson. He said when he was playing for the Clippers and they were in the bubble they heard Rumblin's that Whoever wins in the bubble, they won't take their championship seriously, because it's not everybody in the NBA and it's a joke. He said after they heard all that out well, it might not have been Lou Will, but it was somebody who played for the Clippers. I put that way, yeah. And he said they said once they said that everybody on the Clippers kind of took their foot off the pedal, was like man, fuck this. Like I'm not going to be an asterisk champion. I think about it. Even though the Lakers won the championship that year, how many people still respect that championship?
Speaker 2:I do, and there's a reason why I don't consider that shit asterisk. You, you playing in the same conditions that everybody else is playing in, so I don't consider that an asterisk Asterisk.
Speaker 1:I consider it an asterisk. Why?
Speaker 2:Because the whole world was. This is the one time you can't. The whole world Was going through something. Now, some teams were more equipped than others. Hey, if some players was more equipped, the others did not stand in the strip club like a. Who was it that was in fucking magic? It wasn't Jay, it was Lou Will. It was Lou Will and fucking fucking up COVID protocols. I mean, it is what it is. Everybody in the whole organization, the whole country, was not through something. Yeah, no asterisk in my book. I don't even like the Lakers, I'm not saying it was.
Speaker 1:It was put together in a way where it was like, all right, we're only taking the top 10 teams, like, if you're gonna, if you're gonna do it, like because, mind you, the NBA season they didn't even make it, they, you need to be the best to the All-Star break.
Speaker 2:You need to be the best team from. You need to do your best from day one. Everybody was going through the same thing, yeah. It can't be. It can't be a.
Speaker 1:They barely made it past the All-Star game. There were still teams that could have made the playoffs, that were ex out of the bubble, and then you you brought in a certain amount of teams, but teams like the, the Suns, who won every game, didn't make the playoffs in the bubble, so you had them there just to play, to not win or be able to make it to the playoffs. Like you, you had teams there that you knew that in mathematically could not win and make it to the playoffs. So if that's the case, you might as well invite all 32 teams to just finish out the rest of the season in the bubble. If you had every, every team make it through and played a remainder of the games in the bubble, I could respect it as a listen, the organization can do whatever they choose to do and I'm not capping for the cable, for the it's like just like.
Speaker 2:Just so what? Just like we have a play in season tournament, everyone is playing under the same stipulations. These are the rules, now that it is what it is, so it can't really be a astra.
Speaker 1:It's an astras.
Speaker 2:Yo, if they say for the last game, for the last seat, if let's just say they throw a rule and or whatever, every couple years the two final teams shot, best players got play one on one, just just your best player. There's no team, just your best player. You won't consider that championship of astra.
Speaker 1:That's how it's always been now only because it's things change.
Speaker 2:That's what it's okay. So it's playing whoever wants to play in this astras, because it's the first time.
Speaker 1:Well, but it's also not an NBA champion. This is just champion in season. It doesn't give them any sort of like playoff, like you automatically in the playoffs know nothing, it's just your team gets $500,000.
Speaker 2:Will we respect any? Will we put any more respect on any team that wins this tournament?
Speaker 1:I think whoever wins the tournament, if they do make it to the playoffs, they'll be talked about more, but I don't see them being. I think whoever wins this season tournament isn't going to be the best team in the NBA when it's all said and done, because the thing about it the Pacers them be, the 76ers to, and they've been everybody in their group to be four and no in the end season tournament. Right, I do. Statistically wise, they aren't better than the Spurs or the Celtics or any of them who haven't, who didn't get their end season tournament bid to the knockout round. So because you so happen to have a good game against these teams on those types, on those games, doesn't make you the best team and the favorite to win the NBA championship. You know, if this was Jordan era and Jordan, then we're in that N C Tournament. You can make a judgment call for that. Even bird and magic Jack and Kobe you know saying that's because we know what we know about them.
Speaker 1:Right. But with the way the NBA is now, like, think about, it's even hard to bet on NBA basketball because you got a team, that's. You have a team that's 18 and five and no loose routine. That's five and 18. You like, how did you lose to this team? Like, you lost to this team while you're at home, even while they're at home. But while you're at home, like, come on, like, no, it's, the NBA has become super friendly. The NBA is, you know, no, no wrong. Like the NBA has always been friendly. They always been friends. But what happened to my rivalries where you really just hate the motherfuckers you playing against? What happened to them? Old Celtics Lakers Series, where you knew it was going to be a fight?
Speaker 2:No, it's still a thing, but it's not. It's not team based, it's a personal base, like no matter where. That's just like no matter where fucking James Harden go. I'm one fucking hate James Harden. That's just.
Speaker 1:That's what that is See, that's what I missed. I missed the. When the game is over, you don't shake a nigga hand. You go to the locker room, get your clothes on, you go to the next game. You don't say.
Speaker 2:I missed. It's an unsporesment like Honda. Yeah unsporesment.
Speaker 1:Not, nigga, it's nobody's hand. If we lose, like, fuck you and your team, like that good old, like doing wrong, like and like Charles and Jordan and Shaq Rawls are the same thing. Like you know, outside of that arena, we cool, we boys, we brothers, we in the same brotherhood. But when we step into that arena, nigga, you is the enemy. You are the enemy. We hate your team and don't let, don't let.
Speaker 1:Have been back in the 80s and Celtics, lakers and let's. You know, at that point, bird and Bird and Magic were cool to a certain extent, but you do not think they were trying to take each other's heads off. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Go on those times like it's one of the things where you know is I don't mind the chipping this, I don't even mind the arguing and fighting amongst people who know that you know her friends, but we ain't got to be all extra nice Like you, you, you act, you act all tough because Lance Stevenson puts a layup up, because you didn't play no defense. He puts a layup up like all right, well, fuck it. Now you mad because he's scoring. Oh wait, you're not supposed to do that. Who says who? Yeah, I turned the ball over.
Speaker 1:Let me get my. I'm going to get my point. You mad, because now Open up.
Speaker 2:Forgetting to leverage up like fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:Nah, look see, in my head, in my head, we've all played little leagues. We've all played high school, we've all played in a mural college and the one thing that every coach has ever said to you until you guys at the NBA is if the buzzer ain't right for the game, be over. You still go out there and score. Yeah. So you being mad that I, that I put up a layup and you thought I should have just like through the bars.
Speaker 2:If he dunked that shit? If he dunked that shit, it would have been a that's you know. Oh no, they would have.
Speaker 1:Could you see people? They get a wide open three and shooting somebody coming like tackle them is like like really. So in my head I'm like so so are you mad because you're shooting through your dunking or getting a lip, or you mad because I got your ass blown out and you feel like, ok, we're already.
Speaker 2:We know that. We know the answer. My practice or I feel like you disrespecting me, like, oh, I'm, I'm free, you could just do shit, you know, like that or whatever Having is like, yes, tonight I could, I might not be able to do it tomorrow night. What if we play again? That's just the way this shit goes, unless we are just clearly the dominant team and it's only a couple dominant dominant teams in this league.
Speaker 1:No team is like super dominant where you like yeah, they be doing it, but like the only time I even condone that somebody would tackle somebody At the last minutes of the game is if that person was was out there really, really, really trying to embarrass you and make you look full. Still playing hard, they up by 40 and they, they, they cross you over and throwing the alley. That's the only time other than that, like somebody just getting a still and going up for a layup.
Speaker 2:It's like all right well, the thing is like the cross and over and going to Ali. If your defense week that needs to happen to you, you will. Fucking NBA player, it should not be this way, right?
Speaker 1:So come on now, you, you can't you can't coach a, you can't coach a summer summer program and say you got to play to the to the game is over and it's literally 40, 40 seconds left in the game and you get mad because somebody puts a layup up, because you didn't decide to get back on defense. Like, come on, make it, make it make sense, make it make sense. Yeah, you know, like, make, make that, makes it like. Oh, we like when, like when Phoenix tried to fight Zion Williamson because they missed the shot, they threw a design and Zion did a whole 360. And they get mad trying to fight. I'm like, like I'm getting this.
Speaker 2:I'm getting this shit off Like come on now.
Speaker 1:Like what's that? That is that thing where it's like yeah, I didn't come down here and play no defense, so I'm going to put a show off for my. They were in, they were in New Orleans, so of course you're going to put something on for his fans.
Speaker 2:Listen, be, stay ready to be ready. That's that's. That's that when I play Street Fighter, mortal Kombat, going online and I'm playing some mind and look like they might not be paying attention because I did a couple moves and they move or nothing, or they just not moving back and forth, I am fucking them up. There's no way. I'm waiting. I might get you like I'm going to give you like two seconds If you ain't do nothing. I'm not waiting for you to get back to your controller. That's not how that should work. That shit don't work in the real world. What makes you think it's going to work in the fucking organized, structured sporting events? Not going to happen. It's not going to happen all the time Because you won't have somebody. That's going to like what's shit? I don't get no minutes anyway. I'm dunking this motherfucker. I'm only in this game because we blew you out by 30 and they still can't catch back up with the fucking second string, so no.
Speaker 1:I'm winmilling this shit and then you get mad because you guys turn the ball over. I got this still and I went ahead and dunked it. Now you try to fight me. Nick, I'm trying to get the one, the two points.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get the whole season. I want my kids to have this highlight Like yo, your dad, you ain't ain't put me on the floor, but your dad could do some things.
Speaker 1:Simple as that. And look, don't know, there's a reason why the rule is an unwritten rule. It's because it ain't a real rule. It's just a bunch of people who don't want to be embarrassed, that like, even though we lost and you guys won, you know we going don't do nothing spectacular to make us look bad. Like I said, the only time I can don't even not taking a shot is if the other team that's losing makes a shot and I had to pass the ball and we get to the other end of the court and you guys are set up for defense. That's the only time I even say, hey look, I just that's the only time I would ever tell my team hey, look, not, don't even, don't even try to score, let's just run the clock, just run the clock.
Speaker 1:Because there's no reason, because at that point would, if we're setting up and really running a play and trying to score, then I can see you being mad. Then I can see you being like you already won, like you defeated us. Like why are you guys still running your offense? Like I really want to beat us worse. But on a fast break you guys being sloppy with the ball and you got the win, you pass it to somebody and they still the ball and dunk it. You mad, oh, like when Steve Kerr got mad at their rookie when he threw the ball off the backboard and dunking we don't, we don't do that. Like you don't do that.
Speaker 2:Like shut up, I ain't got to get this game next, next game.
Speaker 1:And look, I'd alluded to you, Carl, like this. So you want me to play till the end of the game, but you don't want me to play till the end of the game. Make that make sense.
Speaker 2:I ain't even saying that. I'm saying that in my head, but I'm saying to him I'm a bad coach. This is what it is, Because I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do it again.
Speaker 1:I might. I'm even saying that I'm like you tell me every week to play every game, to play to the end to the to that buzzer rings. That's what I'm doing, and they didn't want to get back on defense. And if they don't want to guard me, then hey, I will put a show on for the fans. I'm trying to get me a slam dunk competition bid. You know what I'm saying, because that's the only thing I can get. But you got all these other niggas out here running around and doing all this. I'm trying to get me a bid to get to the All-Star game. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, that's why I never understand the, the, the concept behind the whole, that whole thing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, well, hey, wait a minute.
Speaker 2:That's what it is. That's what it is. I Don't feel like I'm gonna work tomorrow.
Speaker 1:I mean either I'm retiring tomorrow, what's your thinking? I retire every. I retire every day you know.
Speaker 2:So what's? I know we probably talked about this and it just popped in my head. Is there any? You win a lot of. You don't win the jackpot, but you win like three, four mil. You still going back to work. Yeah, what's the doubt for you not to go back to work?
Speaker 1:I need a bill.
Speaker 2:So you going back to work if you got 500 mil?
Speaker 1:yeah, going back to work. Why? Because you do, you understand much, that is yeah, I know how much that is, but I need somebody that I can burn that. I'm not burning that 500 mil. That 500 mil is gonna pay off all debt, that's including my.
Speaker 2:I would never. You don't have 500 million dollars in debt, though, so what are you talking?
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, I'm not saying I have five million dollars in debt now. Mind you, after taxes, after I pay off my debt and my wife's debt, $500 million dollars, we're still gonna have like 300 million.
Speaker 2:No, you're not.
Speaker 1:You're not gonna have 300 million after 500 mil At the panel after the taxes, after the taxes, because you find it after taxes 500 after taxes, plus your debt, which your desk not gonna be your debt your debt, you're missing one million dollars $1,000,000 or just not even a hundred that, or our debt is a hundred dollars. Our this boat 500,000 490.
Speaker 2:Okay, so now you have 499 million, right? So you still gonna work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cuz now, no, cuz now. With with that 500,000, with that 500,000, I'm gonna go to work, but like I told anybody else I won't know, I will no longer have a let me work hard. Attitude.
Speaker 2:I don't give a shit attitude 500 million, 500 499 million in the bank. You're going back to work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, going back to work?
Speaker 2:No, why?
Speaker 1:going back to work cuz. Why risk that first?
Speaker 2:I got. Why risk? Why risk? Why risk?
Speaker 1:It's partly, I'm sure, with one. I need to get out this goddamn house and I'm, your wife all goddamn day who want to go do all this other shit. I still, you still need the social aspect of Of going out and interacting with people and a purpose to get up every day. And three, even though I'm gonna Pay, buy maybe a new house, pay off some shit, whatever, get new cars, everything else and invest in the businesses. You still need that money where you're not spending your winnings, you're spending what somebody else is giving me.
Speaker 2:I put it this way, why? But that's nothing compared to you having 400 and some million in the bank. So so you will still work with that money. You could also just put your shit in a high interest yield account and live off of. Let's just say you put a couple, let's just say you put 100 million there, you could probably Earn maybe like a hundred or 200 a year. You can live off of that. Yeah, just with your money sitting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just saying I would meet personally. I'm staying home.
Speaker 2:I'm staying home, but I'm not fucking gonna work.
Speaker 1:I just saying me personally. I Was still gonna work Because you know my, my shirt, my insurance is covered where I got you are rich. I might have a million dollars, I might be rich, but that you didn't Well you paying 20 mills of pay motherfuckers off that $15 copay Versus.
Speaker 1:Have that $15 copay plus the state paying for my healthcare is a whole lot better than me going to the Maryland Exchange Connect and I'm saying, okay, you got paid $300 a month for health credit. I'm not gonna really use that much. I might as well just get working Like it's just. It's the little things. I know it's, it's the little thing if I have a long with along with.
Speaker 1:You know, with me having this money, I can still stay young, not be stressed out about work. And then when I retire, not only do I still have my million, then someone else just give me a pension just because I did my service there, like.
Speaker 2:It's, you're not, but you're not gonna be to spend all that money anyway.
Speaker 1:It's not about spending on it I first I wouldn't have spent all that money anyway but it's mostly about leaving something for for the kids, so they know you ain't got these shit for them.
Speaker 2:Daddy earned this money. Listen, if I had that money I'm not going back to work, but I'll work, I'll do philanthropy.
Speaker 1:At that point I'll start a nonprofit and that's be leaving the house and actually working in band around people, our employee people like, if me, my wife, did get that, the first thing we probably, the first thing we probably would have did Would be by one of these shopping mall developments Like these things. They got all these businesses here that, yeah, we would have brought one of those, but that is just to increase the revenue, and Then we still would like. It's funny cuz even my wife was like she probably would still go to work, but it would be with. With going to work and knowing that you don't have to be there, it makes everything stress less because it's like okay, like you know it's the driving to work and dealing with people, that part that you don't really have to deal with.
Speaker 1:That doesn't bother me too much.
Speaker 2:It would driving yeah look cuz.
Speaker 1:Look at that point. If, let's say, I had had the money, I'll be like you know what. I'm gonna find me a job that I could tell the word, if I could tell the word from home. And I still got 450 million.
Speaker 2:You got, you got. You got 499 million dollars left. You, you can. You could pretty much employ yourself with your investments. Yeah and I actually put take a A larger role in that. And you're still working, you're still dealing with people. I'm saying you're gonna go back to the same job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't see why not. You know it'd be. It'd be something to do. I go in there. Look, I will go there like I do any other day. Hey, what's up? Guys Sit at my desk, do my work, cuz nobody.
Speaker 2:I get that no one would know from no one would know for me either. But like five mil, I'm still gonna work 10 mil, I'm still gonna work 20. Now, if we reach a hundred, that's what I'd be like. You know what? I'm not fucking going to work. A hundred million, the bank, I don't think I got to at that point I.
Speaker 1:Would say a hundred mil if I had a hundred million. The bank. I still go to work but I will be able to run my business with other people. I can be like alright, look, Make sure my business is profitable so that I can.
Speaker 2:You know, cuz I'm thinking awful. I'm thinking of it like Like this, like I, I don't have a, I have everybody's debt right, I don't have a lot of debt. Number one, number two, I don't really have a lot of wants. There's needs, but you know you have needs every day as the. When the wind blows, something changed in your mind. You're like well, I can use that, walk ahead. So I know for a fact I can live off of maybe 200,000, be comfortable a year. So if I can set, let's put myself in a situation where 200,000 continuously coming and my money is working for me, a hundred mil I'm done working, but like five mil I feel like I still got to work I'll be having a mindset that you have like yo Ain't no care in a world for world for world, because if I, if I need to get another job, I can Go get another job. So it's not really care.
Speaker 1:But like a million, two, three, four, five, ten, I'm still working and with the house paid off, cars paid off, all the order, big debts paid off.
Speaker 2:Really all you don't know.
Speaker 1:I was even in paying taxes, even even if, even if I was to make let's say I was to Get 2.9, three million dollars right and I paid off everything, all the debt between me, my wife, everything else, and even including buying a bigger house and and whatever If I was to just up and say you know what, babe, I got, I still have a million dollars left. I'm done working. I'm like, yeah, I'm done working, but she's like, when I'm gonna just keep working, it's alright, that's cool, but do you mind covering the taxes? The taxes of what? 2, 2,500 every six months? Yeah, so it's not like. It's not like, it's a hardship. Like you, she might be like, well, damn, like I'm working, you not even working, I'm paying the taxes on the, on the house and that a listen, you could bring home and that after working your one was still think that about you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't want to work. Why you gotta? Why you guys they home like I'm the one why.
Speaker 1:A lot of it like no, now, if it was like, okay, it's 500 million, it's like alright, well, like 500 million at my age would mean that and and technically I wouldn't have to work, yeah, I wouldn't have to work anymore that I, literally I could tell my wife go ahead and quit your job. I'm gonna quit my job, we're gonna pay off this house. We're gonna go buy a brand new house as bigger that we can sit and enjoy in. We will have someone pay, someone pay to live in this house. You know, 1700 a month that will cover the taxes on this house plus the taxes on our house wherever we else we go, plus more than likely the utilities on at boat, because whoever lives here is going to pay the utilities anyway and then pay the utilities our house. We would have to work and then you know that's fine, a million. Well, you know we got that. We can do whatever we want to do.
Speaker 1:But eventually you come across that thing. You know me and my wife. We're still young. Um, we're gonna get bored, do we? Can we? There's only so much sitting around the house and having sex all day you can do before. You're like well, now what do we do do?
Speaker 2:you want to go to the.
Speaker 1:Bahamas and have sex. Or you want to go to the Bermuda and have sex, like, hey, let's go to Australia, to down under, and let's get dirty, you know?
Speaker 2:say like it's but yeah, but that's, I'm not just this is just me. That's where, like, the give back part will probably take a. Take a hold of me, because it's more or less like well, yeah, I'll just start working. You said well.
Speaker 1:I ain't giving back shit me, give back you know I ain't thinking about.
Speaker 2:Listen, listen to what I'm saying. I'm not saying give back your money, but you can put your time and your energy and your resources that you have acquired. Who give back? You can give other people's money back. I'm so say philanthropy. Philanthropy is just not your money, it's other people money, creating fundraisers, doing events and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Being social. That's where I'm gonna get my social shit from. That's what I want to do. I want to do something like if I was gonna do that, I'd do that shit every quarter. Like all right, we doing an event for. Like all right, the kids on fucking Martin Luther King, you want to get them all backpacks before school. This is, and that what we doing. Like shit like that, like I could do that every whatever, whatever, whatever. Just yearly doing something at my organization and shit. That way I'm being fulfilled, I'm actually working.
Speaker 2:I'm not being corrupt because I don't really need the money, so I'm never going to take a page. You know I'm not going to take a paycheck. I'm just, you know, working with people to. You know, figure out what needs need to be met. That's what I would do, but that's only if I got a hundred mil. All that short shit, I'm still working. I could still.
Speaker 2:Here's the crazy thing there are people that we don't know and we see every day that have those type of funds and work the same type of job that we have, just because they might have gotten in inheritance or, you know, hit the stock market pretty good and shit like that. So they could be done. Don't, nobody got to know. You know the money you make. It's only problematic when people know and then you feel like you, you know you're scared or you're looking over your shoulder, or you know people hitting you up for money they don't know they have. You know they have no reason to ask now if you show them up for the signs that you got this type of money, then.
Speaker 2:So another story too. And you know, just like that, uh, that meme that says, uh, I'm not going to tell you I want a lottery, but it'll be signs. I already know with me it's going to be signs. It's going to be signs, but you ain't want to know if I'm just making bad, you know midlife crisis decisions or if I actually want a lot of. But you know I say you got this car, but not even no Lambo, but I might get a you know NSX or something like that but I get it, I get it yeah, man, nothing I'm not.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, I'm not early retiring for nothing less than a hundred million dollars. Hell, some NBA players at this age they got a hundred million dollars in the bank, they straight, because they didn't want everything that they needed, right? So same furnace. I guess same furnace I get it. But on that note, I think I'm ready for tuning in. Hopefully this episode uh edits very, very well and uh yeah no, double top hopefully it should it should it should it, should it should. But I think everybody could tune in. See you next time.