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• Wes/DeLaw • Season 8 • Episode 14

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Ever wondered how social media has shaped our collective anxiety over the years? From the haunting memories of 9-11 to the nerve-wracking days of the DC sniper attacks, and the rollercoaster ride of the Trump presidency, we’ve been on edge for decades. Tune in as we share personal stories about our views on society and lifestyle have shifted with age. We also discuss how aging has transformed our perceptions, from disillusionment with younger generations to skepticism about aging political leaders. 

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Wes:

Worry has not. How could I put it? The worry has not gone away since Obama left, so I don't really know. You know what I mean. Like you know, our generation lived through a lot

DeLaw:

Yeah I mean.

Wes:

I've always been on high alert.

DeLaw:

I went through four years of Trump, I mean.

Wes:

You went through four years of Trump. You went through a recession during college. You went through 9-11 during high school, middle school. You went through the sniper in this area. I remember that one We've been through. Everybody welcome to another episode of the Court in the West podcast. As always, we got DeLaw here.

DeLaw:

You have DeLaw,

Wes:

that's it?

Wes:

You practicing your French for the Olympics?

DeLaw:

No, not yet. I tried, but I couldn't say the devil's son-in-law in French.

Wes:

Hold up Shit. The crazy thing is, I think I know those two words, which says a lot about me.

DeLaw:

I was trying, I was going to, I was going to try and say it in French, and then I was like, yeah, I don't know how to say it in French.

Wes:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got DeL aw. You got me Wes

DeLaw:

DeLaw, the devils son-in-law.

Wes:

I might find that and have to insert that. But you got me Wes Another episode, another day, another week of. Oh yeah, I forgot our phones could do that. What did it say Can your phone translate? Oh yeah, I forgot our phones could do that. What did it say Can your phone translate?

DeLaw:

Oh no, that was you know that little short they be having with the Chinese people and I want chicken with fried rice. The husband's trying to. He's about to tell his wife that he's a billionaire and they want to cut the app.

Wes:

Nah, never seen that one.

DeLaw:

It was on Facebook and it's like any other. You know you get little comic tricks that the mom wants the son to.

Wes:

Okay, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

DeLaw:

So they got this thing where they do shorts for my husband, whatever, and he's like it's like Chinese New Year and he's trying to tell his wife that.

Wes:

They're dramatized skits for social media. Yeah, it might be a real situation, but not a real situation with their actors.

DeLaw:

Yeah, and then I hate those. And then the wife is showing up with like the friend who wants her and it's like I'm just like dude, this is like the messiest thing ever. He like slapped the dude twice. He's like you slapped me. He's like I will slap you again. It slaps him again. I'm going to tell my father, his father comes in.

DeLaw:

He's out slapping in front of your father. Bow, slap him in front of the father.

DeLaw:

Daddy can't protect you, motherfucker. The last one I seen of something like that was it was a guy looking to be head chef of this restaurant. He was black, mixed or whatever Racism ensues and all this other stuff. He showed the racist guy at Grace, something like that, that type of thing. I watched it. I still hate those fake dramatization type things, but I watched it. It was cool. I just hate that. That's what we people need to be. We have to go to these lengths to teach people a lesson online. Not that the world isn't teaching all of us lessons every day. It's just kind of like, since you're being shitty on social media, maybe this will come across your feed, which is crazy in my opinion. Well, super crazy.

DeLaw:

I don't know, I was invested. They only show you a certain amount, so you got to see if you can find the other one. I wasn't downloading that, so I was like, oh man, I wonder if she comes to me and is like, oh my gosh, I didn't know you were a billionaire. And then he'd be like nah, bitch we done.

Wes:

I think I know exactly which one you're talking about. I scrolled past that, motherfucker.

Wes:

I scrolled past that motherfucker.

DeLaw:

I tried to scroll past it, but it just kept showing up over and over So eventually I just kind of looked at it,

Wes:

Yeah, as one would do, as they're scrolling on Instagram or Facebook or whatever. Man, that shit has got me in a chokehold against social media Not me commenting or anything like that, but just me being stuck. And I was telling my wife. I was like. I was like I noticed that the shit getting worse with me, so I got to figure out something. I was telling her I was like I might just get an old school flip phone, but you need a real phone. I say I don't really need a real phone, I need one. When I was, I mean, I don't need, I didn't need a smartphone. When I didn't, when they weren't any. You know what I mean. I figured it out. Yeah, we all figured it out.

Wes:

I was like but this shit doesn't be like, because it's all the stuff that I like, like we talk about algorithms all the time and it's everything that I like. It ain't never anything that I don't like. I'm like oh, this shit know me too well and every, every time, I'm just looking to uh, see something that I like, like and I was explaining. So I was like I went on here to see the weather and the first thing I did was as soon as I opened up my phone, I forgot what I was doing and went straight to instagram. I was like, oh hell, no. So I'm looking to make a change in that. But you know I won't make that change all too soon because you know, our first presidential debates was a couple of days ago. The memes and the ignorance is out there, and a lot of it is funny.

DeLaw:

Oh yeah.

Wes:

Did you actually sit down and try to watch it?

DeLaw:

For a quick second and I said why the fuck do I care? You know, at the end of the day, like I will tell anybody the fact that we even still believe that there's Democrats and Republicans and not just people who are just looking out to do whatever, whatever their counterparts say that they should do, and just hey, who wants to be the face, to be the person that gets run over and told that they're a horrible person, when really it's everyone else that works with you that does the shit, yeah? And they just all oh, yeah, I'll do it this time, I'll be like all right, cool, cool. And then they make us feel like we're in the loop by letting us vote for whoever's going to take the blame for any dumb shit that the, the senate and the house and all those other people do.

Wes:

Right, yeah, I asked my mom the same thing. She was like she fell asleep watching it. And then she, you know she asked me. I was like, well, I went to sleep, I didn't even bother. I'm like, but we saw what this was four years ago.

Wes:

Somebody that seems like they're not all there and another person that's still not all there but just says whatever he wants. Both of them are goofy ass grandpas. That's how they come off. So they're just saying stuff. It's just kind of like some of the stuff is positive. A lot of it ain't what am I, and some of them just ain't saying nothing. You know, sometimes they're just not saying nothing. So it's like, what am I watching this shit for? But the next day, just seeing everybody comment on how it was a disgrace, it was a worry, and this, this and that, and I'm like, oh, y'all couldn't. Y'all couldn't have predicted this. Like I'm not the you know, the political scientist in the room and shit like that it was, couldn't predict this. I'm not the political scientist in the room and shit like that. It's just like come on now See what happens in the next couple months. It's definitely going to get worse before it gets better.

DeLaw:

We're just seeing Roy Jones versus Mike Tyson, part two. Just two grandpas at the cookout duking it out.

Wes:

Nah, those are two uncles. Yeah, they definitely two goofy ass grandpas. Two uncles. You'll never see two grandpas fighting from different sides. It's always two uncles. You know the brothers and shit like that, but I guess if they're grandpas, they could be you know brothers at the same time, too Somebody's uncles, but nah, it's not the same. It's not the same, I don't know. Man, I would like to say that I'm super worried, but the worry has not. The worry has not how could I put it? The worry has not gone away since, uh, Obama left, so I don't really know. You know what I mean. Like we, you know, our generation lived through a lot yeah, I mean I've always been on high alert.

DeLaw:

I went through four years of trump.

Wes:

I mean you went four years of trump. You went through a recession during college. You went through 9-11 during high school. Middle school Went through the sniper in this area.

DeLaw:

DC sniper. I remember that one we went through. But the DC sniper is the definition of if you are doing any criminal activities, to watch the news, to see what they're saying about you, so you try not to fall. He said oh, I only kill on Mondays. Nah, nigga, I'm about to kill on a Wednesday. Oh, I don't kill no one on the weekends. Let me put up two bullets and people on a Sunday, Saturday, Sunday.

Wes:

That was a wild time.

DeLaw:

Yeah, because you know that one of the kids got shot down the street from the high school where I was, yeah, and I was like man and they was like all right, everyone stay in. You know they didn't dismiss us from school. I forgot why they didn't. No, they put the school on lockdown. They just forgot why they didn't. No, they, they put the school on lockdown. They just put us in lockdown and told us to, um, we had to stay in the building until the school was school day was over and we couldn't go outside as far as like to anything. And then, when it was time to leave, they were uh, they, they were having a hard time getting the buses hold on.

Wes:

So did your high school? Your high school had, uh, the trailers and shit, right right Like going outside for classes. So those people, if they had that class, where was they going?

DeLaw:

They went to class.

Wes:

How they told y'all not to go outside.

DeLaw:

Yeah, you can't Out front. Oh, out front, the trailers were in the back. You know if he came on school, if he?

Wes:

But he had a sniper rifle.

DeLaw:

But what if he off school grounds and he knew the woods going into the well, the only way that he was remember he was shooting from the trunk of his car.

DeLaw:

Yeah, that's true, he. He would have had to park at the Bowie Library and then he would have to get a decent shot with everything that covers up the bowie libraries, like the baseball field, all the other stuff. So if anything, he would have been killing somebody at the library and then, if that he wouldn't have been that close, he would have had to just park up closer to Bladensburg where Annex was. Yeah, so the reason he had a decent shot from where he hit the kid at Benjamin Tasker was because there's tennis courts over there. So where I used to live at, across the street from Benjamin Tasker, once you get across the street you start walking down towards where Bowie is and you take the path. You run into these tennis courts, these tennis courts. I don't know if it's a basketball court over there, but these tennis courts are parked over there and boom and pulled out, nice and slow, and left the scene.

Wes:

Yeah.

DeLaw:

I think it was I forgot whose brother was. I think I want to say her name was like dominic or something.

Wes:

Her brother was the one how many people in the area knew that. Uh, that boy yeah, because I had some at. Uh, I think he had once. It see, I think he had went to MLK for a little bit and then went there because I went to MLK. I can't really remember. It's been so long ago and I'm not going to misspeak. I don't know who listens to this, I don't know how touchy that is with people, but there were a lot of people that knew him. It was crazy. It was a crazy time.

DeLaw:

It was. It was. I mean I still went out. And I remember I was going out to get gas one day. My mom was like oh, make sure that when you pump your gas you lay on the ground. I said lay on the ground.

Wes:

I think your mom did not say that, did she?

DeLaw:

Make sure you lay on the ground because he's killing people at the gas station. And I was like well in my head before they said on the news, I said, well, it sounds like he's only working Monday through Friday. It's a.

Wes:

Saturday.

DeLaw:

But you know, at that time I had a Ford Explorer. I think at that time I had a Ford Explorer where I would get gas for.

Wes:

You were driving at that time.

DeLaw:

Yeah.

Wes:

You was in at that time yeah.

Wes:

You was in the 12th grade.

DeLaw:

I'm not sure what 12th grade year I was in, but I was in one of them.

Wes:

Oh my God, I think I was in the 10th. I didn't mean to ask you something like that, but yeah, I get it.

DeLaw:

I was in one of the 12th grade years. You know what I'm saying. But, oh well, yeah, no, I was driving, I had um, just got in my, I got my provisionals, okay, no, no, no, no, I had gotten my full-blown driver's license because you could get it, um, so you did your. So you got your learners at 15 and I think I got mine at 15 and 11. I got my driver's license like january, february, because I did. You know, you got you don't gotta have that for a couple months until you get on and drive in school. Then you gotta have your provisionals.

DeLaw:

I think it was was 16 months until, without any um, any uh tickets or anything. I did my 16 months or whatever, without any sort of. When I turned, I want to say I had either just turned 18 and I had my driver's license, a lot of people who I know they got speeding tickets and all that other stuff. So you know it starts every time you get a ticket or something, it starts over. So as I got closer and closer to 16 months, I was like eight, I'm like 18 months. Yeah, the closer and closer I got to 18 months, I was like let me go go ahead and slow down on the road and not get no tickets.

Wes:

I wasn't even driving when I had mine. I got it, but my mom still wouldn't let me drive. Nothing, that was an easy cakewalk for me.

DeLaw:

It's probably for the best.

Wes:

Man, I would have been getting all types of coochie if I was able to drive. Oh man, it probably was for the best. Yep, probably was for the best.

DeLaw:

Hey man, At least you didn't get caught having sex by the police like I did in the car.

Wes:

Why you like young, young.

DeLaw:

Yeah, about the same time I got my driver's license.

Wes:

Man. I almost got caught as an adult and I knew I shouldn't have been where I was at.

DeLaw:

I had no idea. I was an adult when I got older and realized you could just pull into different neighborhoods and just park in front of somebody else Hopefully. I ain hopefully out there and if it's late it's like park in front of it but park indirectly. It was like a sweet spot. It was in between two houses.

Wes:

How'd you get caught on a sweet spot then I?

DeLaw:

didn't get caught on a sweet spot, I got caught in a parking lot.

Wes:

Yeah, that's come on. Well, I can't even say come on. I did that shit as an adult. And guess which parking lot I did it at? Oh, at the mall, Redskin Stadium. Really Stupid Hell yeah.

DeLaw:

It's not the best place to do that at.

Wes:

It's definitely not the best place because you know it was wide the fuck open and it was a police officer right across and I'm like the whole time, I'm just like and right there I guess he was like I ain't fucking with these motherfuckers.

DeLaw:

Yeah.

Wes:

So not the best choice of judgment, but hey, sometimes that car as you call it, roadhead is just like the best.

DeLaw:

Yeah, I think that was the only time we got caught. Yeah, I forgot what I was talking about. I think we were somewhere in Bowie and the thing was I had been going there for so long. The police never came through.

Wes:

they never came through there, or Flowers High School, that was the other spot you drove all the way to Flowers because you went around the back way of the house.

DeLaw:

Well, the chick lived by Flowers so it was a short ride, I got you, but we never did it in front of our houses, it was always somewhere else. And I was like, well, if we pull up in a neighborhood in front of someone else's house, like kind of like we're like it's not in front of the house but the side of house, we should be fine. But us, not knowing that, we just went and parked by. You know, we parked different parking lots. So yeah, I got caught, man, it messed my mojo up for a minute.

Wes:

For a good minute messed up my mojo, so when that happens you get a ticket.

DeLaw:

You can For indecent exposure.

Wes:

But what happened, though? Like he just said, y'all gotta leave.

DeLaw:

He said put your clothes on. You gotta leave.

Wes:

You had all your fucking shit off.

DeLaw:

Well, no, I just have my pants off. Oh yeah, it was a hot day that day. It's hot.

Wes:

Yo, sorry, it was a hot day, that day, alright .

DeLaw:

And the weird part was we had already and we had just finished too.

Wes:

We were just kind of chilling there. Why was your pants just off?

DeLaw:

You were just chilling there, I don't know, I was out of breath, I don't know.

Wes:

Oh my, I don't know out of breath.

DeLaw:

I don't know oh my, yeah, it messed up my mojo for a minute where, like it, just I just wouldn't. I think I was traumatized a little bit.

Wes:

Oh my, you know you well, it is in the past tense. You suck it up and you figure out what you did wrong and you don't do it again.

DeLaw:

Well, we'll just say for a little bit I wasn't given a good performance, damn. I got you and then after a while I kind of got over it, and then I a while I kind of got over it and then I was fine. But yeah, I started giving good performances like years later. But that's when I also remembered to not park in parking lots and to find that sweet spot around homes.

Wes:

I'm laughing because it's true. I'm laughing because it's true, I've been there.

DeLaw:

You know, when I look back I'm just like damn Of all the places we could have went. We were just choosing these two places. I was like man at one point we would always hit the movie theaters because the police never showed up in the movie theaters, you ever do it in the family bathroom, the movie theater Try once man.

Wes:

I remember my.

DeLaw:

Yeah, what if it like getting started someone knocking on the door?

Wes:

I'm in here like what the fuck?

DeLaw:

after that I was like nah, let's just.

Wes:

I was like man, I'll just crank you yo tell me why, speaking of Bowie, it was at Bowie. No, I'm sorry, it wasn't at Bowie, it was at anything. It was at the movie theater at Potomac Yards when it was there that movie. No, I'm sorry, it wasn't that movie, it was that thing. It was the movie theater at Potomac Yards when it was there.

Wes:

I'm on a date. That's Virginia, right, yeah, and you know man shorty coming out or whatever and going to the bathroom and shit, I'm in a bathroom and I'm in a bathroom. I didn't think nobody was in a bathroom so I'm not really paying attention because I'm also sleepy too. It's like one o'clock. I go to pee and I could swim by. Yo.

Wes:

I just seen something red from the, you know, at the corner of my eye, like red, like, like somebody had something red on. I'm thinking it's a guy, old time woman, but I guess they were, and the guy was in there too. But I guess she got scared and probably tried to leave out before I could leave out, before before I came in and me not paying attention. So she's on the back wall. You know how you wait for somebody to finish peeing. She's on a back wall, I'm peeing and I go like this and she kind of just says, hey, and I'm like you know I shake and I'm like I'm like yo, is you know I shake and I'm like I'm like yo, is that a guy or is she in here with somebody? And you come up out, she's in there with somebody. She had a dress on at that. I was like, oh, I fucked up their shit. Let me get the fuck out of here. Wash my hands, get the fuck out of here.

DeLaw:

Yeah, yeah, I done walked in on that. We had a fraternity crush party so I was like I need to spaff real quick. So when I rolled in, one of the brothers was in there and you could see there was another girl. You could see there was a girl in there and I'm like, oh, she gave him a hand.

DeLaw:

I was like okay, I go ahead and just start pissing and he's like, hey, don't even worry about it. Okay, wash my hands, hands go out, get my drink. And shit happened and I was like I don't even want to know who was in there with him, but I just know because she didn't give a shit that we were coming in there when the alcohol, when the alcohol was flowing, you just kind of complete the mission.

Wes:

Man, both parties, both parties. That shirt just reminded me of like alcohol flowing. It was this good bus thing on Instagram guy was like the generations that been through different types of drinks, like the 80s, and I think the 80s went through Thug Passion, which was Cristal and Alize mix or sometimes you'll do, hennessy. The 90s they went through Incredible Hope, which was hypnotic, and shit, hypnotic and Was it hypnotic and champagne. No hypnotic, and that's a bone crusher right.

Wes:

No, hypnotic, and I just seen the clip Hypnotic and how the fuck I forget that? I just seen the clip. Hypnotic and hennessy hypnotic and hennessy, give you the bone I mean I'm about to say bone pressure get, uh, an incredible hall and they stay. And the guy was like it's this thing called the niggle or some shit like that, the niggle, wiggle or some shit like that. It that niggle, wiggle, some shit like that. It was all this shit mixed together and I was just like geez, louise man. So he said people surviving that shit, they survive all other shit. He said times will be had and I'm like I bet it ain't nothing like a mixed concoction of shit where you'd be like God damn, you know it's dangerous after you didn't took that first sip. But you see, everybody else take that sip and you like you know what I think I'm gonna partake whenever, what everybody else going into that I might even get, even more luckier.

DeLaw:

You know, my percentage rate might go up getting lucky. So yeah, because everybody was. I know when I was in high school everyone was drinking hypnotic. I mean because obviously it was light and alcohol. I mean it wasn't like a hard alcohol, but everybody was just taking it. I forgot what they were mixing it with, but they were like I think that shit's straight.

DeLaw:

I think they mixed enough juice in it that it would slush up, because you know alcohol ain't freezing. But it'll slush up if you don't. It'll slush up once you put enough non-alcoholic foods in it. So, but that's what they were doing, bringing it to school, and they were like oh no, it's just a Kool-Aid. It's just Kool-Aid. I'm like it's Kool-Aid. There's no way. It's just Kool-Aid, because you could. It's Kool-Aid. There's no way. It's just Kool-Aid, because you can smell it on them. I'm like alright.

Wes:

We had motherfuckers drinking in high school on campus. We just had weed smokers. No alcohol, just weed.

DeLaw:

Alcohol was easier to bring in as long as you weren't acting crazy. But administrators never really got in your face like that. And when you're, even if you brought it in, so let's say you bring it in dark liquor, right, and you just had a coke bottle. No one's really checking for you because it's just a coke bottle, unless they can visibly smell see you, yeah, or see you acting a little bit uh yeah weird.

DeLaw:

So if I would? So let's say I was walking past a menstruator, I was taking a swig of it and he smelled it. I was like what's that? Let me smell that. You know what I'm saying. But if I didn't have it in sight and all I smelled like was alcohol, it would be something different, because they're not. You know, unless you're talking to them directly, you can't smell them. Unless you're a real alcoholic at the age of 16, 17 years old the age of 16, 17 years old, which a lot of them kind of were.

DeLaw:

But you know, a lot of times, as long as you you know, you know how it is. Even in college one of my brothers used to bring alcohol and I'd be sitting behind him when he cracked it open. I could smell it. So I know, I know administrators can smell it. That's why we were always like you know, just keep it down If you're going to be drinking or whatever.

Wes:

Yeah, it's all you know yo question for you and you're um. In your personal experience, um do you think um getting older, um has changed what you think about society and, uh, what you want your preferred lifestyle to be man, where you be coming up with these hard-ass questions that's not our question. You should be thinking about these, you're, you should be thinking about these things anyway man, that's not hard. Let's start with the first one, the first part of that.

DeLaw:

Look, look, you got older, right, you're older this year. Money, fuck my wife okay, that's yours that's just that's your particular.

Wes:

Yes, I get that, but society, for an example, has your views, since you've gotten older changed.

DeLaw:

I just think all these motherfuckers crazy that's it.

Wes:

You didn't think they were crazy back then.

DeLaw:

No, back then I thought shit was cool, like all the dumb shit that people be doing. Oh yeah, that's. Oh yeah, yeah. I won't thought shit was cool, like all the dumb shit that people be doing. I'm like, oh yeah, that's. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to be like that.

Wes:

And then now I'm looking at Dumb shit like what Shit you actually seen, or shit you seen on TV.

DeLaw:

Shit that I see on like TV stuff that I see some cool. Back then I look back and I'm like, damn, I thought that shit was cool. What the fuck was I thinking about? Now I just think that we're all crazy. Now I see what my steps are. The same thing. This would be cool to do. Let me do something crazy. I'm just like this.

Wes:

Basically, you have no hope for society. I have Everybody's crazy.

DeLaw:

Everybody look, as we've gotten older, I feel like we have gotten better and been like, okay, we gotta get better. But if you look at the people who are younger, I don't see no hope for us.

Wes:

If these little motherfuckers going to be running our government, we're doomed sometimes I wonder if the politicians in office now, and in every single realm of it, if they think that because there's some old motherfuckers in the office, including our president, current president single realm of it. If they think that, because there's some old motherfuckers in the office, including our president, current president.

DeLaw:

Biden, what about 105?, 107? Yeah, that nigga old Trump ain't too far behind him at 101, 103 fucking old ass, motherfucker.

Wes:

Sometimes I'm like get your old ass off that stage. Everything you look old you move old you sound old.

DeLaw:

The amount of pills he's taking just to make himself look good and possibly be able to sleep with some woman is ridiculous. He got heart problems, diabetes, high blood pressure. You know you're taking the Viagra.

Wes:

Let's just go this way the lowest hanging fruit and that motherfucker fat, because you can have all those things and be skinny or be slim. He's fat, he's fat, yeah, fat ass Nah.

DeLaw:

Let me start on that goop. Um, all right. Oh, you think we, you think we doing. Yeah, I think I think we're doing. I mean, I I still feel like that the younger generation has an opportunity to be better and to get themselves together. But with what I'm seeing and what's becoming popular and what's making them famous to get their millions or a hundred, couple hundred thousand, I don't, I don't see too much. I mean don't get me wrong Like that's just looking at the minority of people doing dumb shit, not counting for the majority of people who are actually doing something and for the majority of people who are actually doing something.

DeLaw:

So I think, for the ones that are doing something, that are going to make some of themselves, I think we'll be fine. It's just of how bad the time forward is going to be and how dumb shit's going to get it. So you know how, like, balance has gradually increased over the years and all that, and how things are done and how careless people are. I think we're at an all time high of that at some point.

Wes:

Yeah, I can see that.

DeLaw:

You know, back in the day it wasn't all these cameras and you could get away with certain things and whatever.

Wes:

Now, that just makes me think was it always like that back in the day? And now that there's cameras, we see more of it.

DeLaw:

Yeah, but it was a different coup back then. Along with it was, I don't want to say it was more honorable, but I feel like a lot of them were more honorable.

Wes:

You know what I mean. They were held accountable, let's just put it that way. So you had no choice but to be honorable in that particular system. When I say I don't mean by uh, being right or being good, I mean you could be honorable.

Wes:

And then in the seedy underworld you know what I mean. Like you, you you're doing this shit with honor and you know to the code and to the rules and stuff like that, I think it was more someone was gonna hold you accountable. So in that regard, but, um, yeah, yeah, man, I kind of agree with you. Like, uh, the way I see society, I don't know, man, people just don't have. No, I can't say. People, I agree with what you're saying. Um, as I've gotten older I ain't gonna lie I honestly thought things would be better than what I saw as a kid or as a teenager, and not that I saw some crazy effed up stuff, but it's just like some of the things that we'd be having issues with. And then I get older and I kind of read back or look at something with better context because I'm older to understand.

Wes:

I'd be like this shit's still going on yeah like to the point where, like, let's just say racism, for an example I talk to my wife about this shit all the time. I was like yo, that has to be a form of retardation. I was like there is no. I know they say it's taught and it's not. You know it's not. Uh, racism is taught. It's not like something that you're born with. But I'm like, at some point you have to see some signs along the way that you go. You know what. This don't make no sense. You know what I mean, like, but yet it's still here.

Wes:

But, yeah, man, I always thought that fucking the shit that I would see on TV or just like, oh, living single, that's how it's supposed to be. I'm going to make enough money to you know? Well, maybe not, but cause they was all sharing an apartment, would you go to me? I'm going to have a high-earning job and I'm going to get to do these cool things and this, this and that and go on wacky adventures every. Uh. That's what my life's going to be like.

DeLaw:

Which would always trip me out about living single.

Wes:

In general, you have an apartment, but upstairs yeah, it's a duplex, a loft, an apartment with a loft. Yeah, it was in Brownstones, so that's a thing. It just got converted into an apartment. That's a thing in New York.

DeLaw:

It's a. Thing. I've been in some, you know, looking back at it, I was so puzzled by like wait, how do you have a? It looked like a whole house. You got all these things. At least with Martin it was all one floor of an apartment, yeah.

Wes:

The one thing that always triggered me about Martin trying to write right next to Shanaynay door there was an incinerator. But I didn't know what an incinerator was or could pronounce it at the time that I was watching it, because that was when I was in third grade and shit. But I'm like damn like if you had that apartment now would you want to live next to the fucking incinerator? People every day coming up to your front door opening up that hatch, throwing shit in there.

DeLaw:

Yeah.

Wes:

My wife before she the drinks that on Baltimore have that college park, not that college park, the college park Buffalo Wild Wings.

DeLaw:

Yeah.

Wes:

The apartments over there. They had an incinerator. Why'd you stay over there? They just throw your trash in that bitch and I don't know, I don't know what happens out there. I had one of them bitches, but that was outside, going towards the garage. That was inside the fucking building, so you know it shouldn't any place stink.

Wes:

But yeah, man, I always thought shit was going to be like that or even like I want better being in school. You know how you watch Nickelodeon or Disney and shit like that. I'd be like, oh, my next school year is going to be just like this and when I get there it ain't like that at all. Society has a way of selling you dreams to keep you pushing forward to. You know the uh to do the things that they want you to do, whoever they is. Yeah, because I remember talking to one of my home girls. I was like, whenever I used to see shit like uh, stuff on nickelodeon or, um, the disney channel and shit like that, like the families and shit and the houses they would stay in. Yeah, I would just imagine like in my area those places would be like Fairfax, Virginia, because every time my mom or whoever we like, we drive through VA and go to that area, it was just like completely different. Even though we didn't live in a bad area where we uh stayed, it was just more or less like no trash on the street, houses look nice, kids playing in the yard, people watching their cars it looked like something out of a fucking movie or out of a TV show. So that's just me, I would say.

Wes:

I had a very optimistic look on society when I was younger and now it's just more of us like how do I stay away from the bullshit? And don't get me wrong, there's a lot of positivity with society right now. But it's kind of like you. You gotta break yourself away from the bullshit just to kind of see what the positive stuff is. It's not right in your face. The bad stuff is always going to be right in your face. The negative shit, yeah. The positive shit it's. You know it's there, but you know.

DeLaw:

They have you believe that you can work these low level jobs and have a place to stay.

Wes:

The dreams they sold us back then did you hear about the guy that, not only that, and then the jobs. They treat you like shit. They literally like I'm going to treat you like a number. I don't care if you see I'm treating you like a number or employee number was what I mean. I don't care if you see I'm treating you like a number or an employee number is what I mean. I don't care if you see me treat you as an employee number. You is what you is. That type of shit. You are what you are. For example, I don't know if you've seen it or heard about it or not, but the guy in Texas, the security guard.

DeLaw:

I didn't hear about the guy in Texas.

Wes:

Yeah, he. So basically he's doing security and he's doing security actually.

Speaker 2:

Attacked on the job by two guys he believes were trying to steal his car. He says he is disappointed in how police and his boss handled the situation. Fox 7's John Krynjak joining us live from East Austin with more on this tonight. John, yeah, mike, rebecca, we interviewed security officer Percy Payne outside this garage where the attack happened on Monday night. During our interview, percy Payne's supervisor showed up. An argument ensued between the two of them. That argument ended with Mr Payne quitting his job and the supervisor saying that the attack was his fault. This was not how security guard Percy Payne expected his shift to go Monday night at this office building on East 6th and Brushy. It all started around 9 30 when he spotted on surveillance video two guys going inside the private underground garage. The door was apparently stuck open.

Speaker 4:

I witnessed two young Hispanic males on two electric scooters.

Speaker 2:

He went downstairs to check it out and he says he saw the teens messing around with his personal car.

Speaker 4:

One individual was at my driver door with his back to me, looking back. The other individual was at my passenger door facing me, being a lookout.

Speaker 2:

The suspect saw him and ran off. He chased after them and says he tried to detain them until someone could call the cops. Then things got physical.

Speaker 4:

Young individual tried to run me over with his scooter multiple times and then that's when HR started to assault.

Speaker 2:

Payne says he noticed a screwdriver in one of their pockets.

Speaker 4:

I heard the individual say hold him, and that's when he went for the screwdriver to try to stab me. I let them go and immediately went to get my work phone to call 9-1-1.

Speaker 2:

Payne told the dispatcher he wasn't hurt badly enough to require EMS, but needed an officer to respond because of what happened to him.

Speaker 4:

Even though I told her I got assaulted, she told me we will not be sending police officers out there because they did not steal your car. And that is when I hung up.

Speaker 2:

He called 911 again a few minutes later.

Speaker 4:

I got a different operator. I told her the situation. She apologized.

Speaker 2:

About an hour after that an officer did arrive. Tupain says was very helpful and the attack is being investigated by detectives as an aggravated assault Officer told me that that call should have been an emergency case.

Speaker 2:

APD telling Fox 7 Wednesday night they listened to both 911 calls and, quote it sounds like it was handled correctly and within policy. Apd says an officer didn't respond the first time because it didn't meet certain criteria. Quote the suspects were no longer on scene. In this case the caller stated that he was fine, did not need EMS and no vehicle was stolen. So we would not respond to an attempted car break-in or a stolen vehicle attempt.

Speaker 4:

I don't think that it was taken as seriously as it should have been.

Speaker 2:

It was as we were discussing this that Payne's supervisor with Preby Security walked up and asked him to stop talking with us while he was on the job.

Speaker 4:

We are very sorry that what happened to you. We have a policy you're not supposed to do any interviews in your uniform. If you wanna do this as a private citizen, you can. I understand what you're saying, but it's also my safety and this is the only way my situation will get out there.

Speaker 2:

Things escalated with Percy making the decision to quit. Take your uniform off. Yes, ma'am, yes ma'am. But the argument continued. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't touch him.

Speaker 4:

You touched him. Is it my fault? I would say yes, every bit of it is your fault. Okay, thank you, here you go. No worries the fact that my supervisor basically told me it was my fault that I got assaulted. That let me know all I needed to know.

Speaker 2:

Now, tonight, payne tells you Straight crazy right.

DeLaw:

So it was my fault that I got assaulted.

Wes:

It was security. So she basically just wanted him to just like show face like yo. We got this contract to show that we got security. But we don't want you doing nothing. It's your fault that you got attacked, even though you was kind of securing the premises and shit and he's unarmed security.

DeLaw:

Don't let him be unarmed security. That might have been. We would have been, yo, he would have let off. What did it mean? He's a crew driver. We would have been talking about two. Two dead, we would have been talking about two bodies Sheesh man, Shit.

Wes:

Don't let him. That's what I mean, man. It's just like that's what I was saying. Like in society, like the hope that you have, like you see shit like that all the time and you do see the positive shit and I'll just be like god damn, I thought it would be more positive, I thought it would be like you know what marlo the king was right. You'll see a lot more of that, but nah, I mean the 9-1-1 code, which they were like.

DeLaw:

It meant the guidelines, but if it is an attempted burglary, come to a fucker police report.

Wes:

Collect some tapes, motherfucker, you know what I mean.

DeLaw:

I'm security calling you. In theory it's non. It might be a non-emergency, but you still send an officer out there to fingerprint, assess the scene, all the other stuff, but you're like we're not sending nobody out. It's like what you send people? You send a police officer out for he said, she said things.

DeLaw:

Right, or the person next door to me is loud oh, someone parked in my spot and they won't move. But you'll send out for that, but not for someone who's just fighting for his life, to give you a finger press for some kids who might have a record Like come on.

Wes:

That's what I'm saying, man. That's what I'm saying.

DeLaw:

If that's the case. So what you're telling me is, because we all know that you can't I know you can't press charges unless something happens. If someone pulls up to your house with a gun and was like I'm going to kill you, you can call all you want and say hey, did they kill you? No, well, if they do, let us know. That's how it sounds.

Wes:

Listen. That made me have like no faith and then turn around I was like I got a little bit of faith. He got it. I think somebody offered him a job. He has the job now like all within like some hours and shit like that, because it's kind of like yo, like he quit right there on TV, like she came and embarrassed that man on TV and made him feel like he weren't worth shit and told him it was his fault that all this was doing his job, like the thing wasn't oh, the thing was open.

DeLaw:

They rolled up in there, they took the opportunity to break and try to break into a car they had a screw, that they had a screwdriver, because you know what they're about to do. They're about to jam it into the, into the thing and try and crank it. But cars don't crank like that, no more. Some of them still do.

Wes:

The old ones, the old ones.

DeLaw:

But you ain't cranking. Someone was saying how they got to wait to steal the push-to-start cars. You need an S-USB or this other shit. By the time you get through breaking into the car, breaking open a little panel underneath or breaking whatever thing, is plugging the usb, doing all this other stuff. What was? That is not an in and out, that is is not going in 60 seconds, taking too much time, yeah.

DeLaw:

You know, yeah, you might do it at 4 o'clock in the morning, but let's say or daylight, what it seemed like it was that one. I mean because all these cars got alarms on it, not all of them? Oh yeah, every car now has them, unless it's an old, old, old car I got a 2015.

Wes:

I don't have one.

DeLaw:

Man, all cars got an alarm.

Wes:

I just told you I got a 2015 that don't have one.

DeLaw:

Hit the close button twice, you got an alarm.

Wes:

Yeah, I got to hit the close button twice in order for that to happen. This is not motion.

DeLaw:

Speaking of that, I need to see about that, though. I'm talking about as far as once they open that door, that alarm goes off. Like if I lock my doors they can break the window, but once they open the door, the alarm goes off. Yeah, it's all on the entrance of the vehicle, so, but all the time you take by doing that, once the alarm goes off, it's like hold up what the hell's going on.

DeLaw:

And then breaking into people's houses is just as dangerous, especially if they hear you coming in and they got the gun right there, yeah, but in Maryland you got to wait for them to come in their house before you let off. Hey, they can be at the front door. I just said that they got an outback like officer.

Wes:

When I got knocked his ass right back out the house, I don't know what to tell you he's got one foot in that pile so what's? So you gotta let him take two feet into the house hey look, one foot is enough I got scared. He had a gun in his hand well, sir, we didn't find a gun.

DeLaw:

Well, I didn't know. I thought it was a gun in his hand, shit it's. It's like even like people are like rolling up to the ring cameras with masks on, I'm like you're not, that that's not a smart thing to do, not that it's not the smartest thing to do as far as wearing a mask. But you also have to remember those things. Start recording after a certain point. So that means if you pull it up in a vehicle with your license plate showing out of the picture, you're going to get caught with that.

Wes:

Yeah, you know what I mean.

DeLaw:

Or even if you pull up to so, because where we have our ring cameras, our ring cameras go out into the street a little bit just to kind of catch things coming in. So that's how we caught my stepson, like getting dropped off at the house. So who dropped you off? Nobody. You want to sit here and lie to me. There's a whole car that was out there. You walk from around somebody, from the, from the back to the front. Who dropped you off? You saw that, yeah.

Wes:

Which one is that?

DeLaw:

Well, you know, I also have my setting that it, once it picks you up, it back records, I think, like 15 seconds. Yeah. So just in case, yeah, just in case it back records and then records 15 seconds after, just in case you know, just in case you know it back records and then records 15 seconds after, but no more than that, because 30 seconds is a long time to be looking to see who the hell rolled up on your doorstep.

DeLaw:

Nah, my wife would do it, yeah, but but no, with the way some of the stuff I see on the ring camera on like little drinks where you got the ring and you can see where crime is happening. You see kids. You see videos of kids checking cars, kids rolling up to your house checking your door teenage you get all of them. Just like you gotta be kidding me, like y'all not have nothing better to do, like what happened to the good old days of just going to go hoop.

Wes:

What happened to the good old days was like yo, if I fuck up, I can be in jail and I cannot get no pussy. I just don't understand, Because jail is glorified.

DeLaw:

You haven't noticed. Look at all the shows you got out there.

Wes:

Listen. You go to jail. They're going to go to jail and be somebody else's pussy. That is not what you want.

DeLaw:

Jail's a short state. Prison is a different ballgame, because now you got problems in prison.

Wes:

I'm using them interchangeably, but you know what I mean. A life of crime will lead you to be in prison.

DeLaw:

You've seen 90 days in or 60 days in. That's jail, that's jail. That's why you see them. They kind of survive through it. All the other stuff. You're waiting to be sentenced, you're waiting to go to your trials. You're waiting for some other stuff, sometimes because your crime wasn't serious. Waiting for some other stuff, yeah, sometimes because your crime wasn't serious enough. You're just in it. Yeah, you know I've been in here five years. Oh, okay, cool, all right. Yeah, you know I'm blase, blase and I'll be out soon. All right, cool. But yeah, alright, cool. But yeah, they, there's this romanticizing about, about jail, and all the young kids see it and they're just like, oh, it's not that bad it's bad, but you do also see motherfuckers in jail, like I just seen this morning.

Wes:

A guy had all his chains on some some J's on like a fresh little fit and shit, walked Rolex, buzzed down In prison, took that picture, sent it out and now the shit went viral. It was on fucking the shade room. I think I was just like what fed Huh?

DeLaw:

It was fed prison, yeah.

Wes:

I didn't read all that. I just know the niggas knocked down. I can't say I just know he's not in the public.

DeLaw:

In jail, you get the blues. In county, you get the blues. In feds, you get the blues. He had a whole fresh Nike shirt.

Wes:

Jeans retro 11s. Cuban chains. Jeans retro 11s. Bust down Cuban chains, rings and a Rolex. I'm like how the fuck you get all that in there.

DeLaw:

Well, if it's a you don't know, I mean because, like I said, when you go to county you ain't know. I mean because you, like I said, when you go to county, you ain't walking around like that. You know what I'm saying, eric you, you try to keep up as low of a profile as possible.

Wes:

No, I get that, I get all that.

DeLaw:

It's just like, and he got to end the gap and he's out there yeah, maybe, uh, insider traded it and got to one of the light security ones where they let you have a guitar and a TV. Your J's, your chains, yeah, and you were the white collar fed crimes where they're in minimum security. Yeah, I could see it. I could see it.

Wes:

Let me see if I can find this shit, just to see if I can show you the picture. Hello.

DeLaw:

I was watching a show and they were talking about. He was like, yeah, you know, so they let me have my guitar. I got my picture. I have a small TV and, you know, in the cell I'm like and it's just a cell, but it looked nice. I'm like what the fuck? How the hell he get to have his guitar, books, tv, he living the dream. He went in a little bit of time.

Wes:

I don't know if I'm going to find it because it's so fucking new. I'm just like I can't believe this shit.

DeLaw:

You know what I don't look at? No shade room. Huh, I don't read none of that stuff.

Wes:

So I don't frequent it, but I'm assuming it was a shade room, because I don't really remember Because it was this morning. I'm like this shit ain't real. And then I didn't even read the comments, I just was like man, bullshit. And then I'm thinking about it. When you say it's glorified, that might be the reason why. Uh, that might be the reason why they don't, um, they don't see prison or jail time as nothing is, because of stuff like that.

Wes:

If you always see them, like the pictures coming out on or they on Instagram, or this, this and that, like like Tax Stone and then fucking and Joe Budden still going at it, and I'm like how, like I don't get that. I mean, I get it but I don't get it. So I don't know, I can't find that shit. I ain't want to look for it, but yeah, man, I, you know I still got high hopes for society and shit, even though it's, it's just been proven that you know the rich stay richer. Nepotism always wins and you need poor people because they build this country. So yeah, speaking of nepotism, Bronny James, if this could either go horribly wrong or wrong, I can't see. Do you think so? You think the first? Do you think the deal is. What we don't know is like maybe the first preseason games or the first couple games. He in the G League he in the G League already.

DeLaw:

Summer League, he ain't gonna be that great. The only reason he makes the roster is on a two-way contract between the Lakers and the G League. Yeah, I agree. Ain't no way he making that roster. Don't get me wrong Second-round picks make rosters all the time, but compared to his teammates at USC, he was the worst of all of them. He showed potential and sparks of it. He was better off staying another year.

Wes:

He needed a little bit more development, which you're saying.

DeLaw:

Yeah, he came back from the cardiac arrest which, because we were talking about that, I was like you know, he came back from cardiac arrest. They won't say what really happened because you don't just you do just go into cardiac arrest, but you don do just go into cardiac arrest, but you don't just go into cardiac arrest, not at that age and not that sort of peak physicalness. So, as you know, with sports in general, we won't say what level. There could have been some um hazing involved that they just wouldn't do because, honestly, because you go to cardiac arrest and workouts during non-school time, which is not permitted by the NCAA, so you go into cardiac arrest. You know, I forgot when somebody said he played college basketball. He said at the time that he went into it. It was before they allowed the teams to actually start practicing and trying out and all the other stuff. This had to be something isolated in the training facility. He said it's a lot of stuff that goes on behind closed doors that no one knows, but we'll never know.

Wes:

Yeah, and of course all that's hush-hush anyway.

DeLaw:

Yeah, and for him to go into cardiac arrest. The meds were there, so that means he was all right. But you know, cardiac arrest if no one, all right, but cardiac arrest if not, what? If I was going to cardiac arrest right now and it's just my wife here nine times out of ten, you're dead.

DeLaw:

It is what it is, the guy that played for the Bills was lucky that they were on the scene, Bronny was lucky that they were on the scene. But those are just some things that you know. But when he got back he still didn't play to what we thought the potential would be. He honestly played how I thought he was going to play.

Wes:

I'm going to tell you like this even if there is a G League stipulation, I don't think he plays. Oh, no, he'll play. He'll play in the G League. No, no, no, I don't think he wants to Think about it. You're probably only doing this for your dad, just to say that y'all did it, and LeBron James, Lebron James, Lebron James Jr, probably could do something else. Bryce is a superstar. We all know this. Bryce is the up-and-coming superstar Bryce is nice.

DeLaw:

I like Bryce. I like Bryce. He's going to be something to fuck with. He's going to be the lamello ball of the group Not that Lonzo isn't good and if he can make it back from that injury he could.

Wes:

I don't know if he's making it back.

DeLaw:

I hope he does. I hope he does Because I like Lonzo. You know he wasn't necessarily like a big time, like oh, I'm going to score a bunch of points. He was like he was a more athletic John Stock, if that makes sense Like he could play defense. He was looking to pass the ball, he wanted to be set up in the offense but he would score if he needs to. That's how he was. He was a taller, more athletic John Stock. So you know, I'm not sure what is a, I is not sure how it's going, but I think I'm hoping he comes back this year. I don't know, I don't know how severe that injury was. I think he just kept aggravating it.

Wes:

he just needed to recover from it that's possible, possible meeting and he just needs to recover from it. Yeah, that's possible, super possible. Injuries are unfortunate when you want to see good players play in any profession. See Mac getting his decline the way that it happened which is like damn that. You know. You hate to see Derrick Rose. Of all people, you hate to see it. You know what I mean.

Wes:

Like it was just like jeez man. It's heartbreaking as a fan, yeah, more heartbreaking to them because they can't play the way that they know they can Like their body, just can't do it, even though the talent is there that they know they can like their body, just can't do it. Even though the talent is there and they're like I'm better than these motherfuckers you know what I mean. Like you still got that type of competitiveness in you. Yeah.

DeLaw:

I mean and luckily for Lonzo Ball's injury he doesn't play in a way that he should aggravate it too much. I mean, he's still a high-level basketball, but it's not like Rose with all the cutting and moving, jumping, dunking.

Wes:

Yeah, he ain't doing none of that, and even in Rose's decline he was still nice with it.

DeLaw:

Yeah, I mean because what he hurt his knee in 2022. He hurt his knee in 2022. And I think he just keeps going back for stuff because stuff keeps getting into it, and it's just. I think he'll be all right.

Wes:

Yeah.

DeLaw:

I think I, I give, even though the owner of the team says they don't think he'll ever play again.

Wes:

They don't want to put the money on him, which is understandable.

DeLaw:

At 26 years old. He has a whole lot of basketball ahead of him and even though he hasn't been hooping that meniscus tear and the debris he got in there, he had to keep going in for surgery to get stuff out of it and everything else. I blame that on doctors. You know how do you get debris in there. I need to get this shit out, get my knee right so I can get rolling. Meniscus tears aren't super bad. I mean I took my ACL and my lateral meniscus. I came back three to four months later.

Wes:

Yeah.

DeLaw:

So something went wrong in that whole grand scheme of it. Yeah, I bet he'll be back opening night this year. He's played 35 games in the last two years.

Wes:

Wager that on DraftKings.

DeLaw:

I am. I got him playing opening night, like I said, for a meniscus tear and setbacks to get back to where he was and the surgery to get the debris out. They weren't repairing his meniscus again. Eventually, stuff gets in there, some swelling, all that other stuff. Get all that out. He'll be there opening night, not starting opening night.

Wes:

No, no, no.

DeLaw:

He'll be there opening night and with it'll be there overnight and with the alice caruso trade um and them getting um, getting giddy um oh, okay, see, yeah, yeah yeah, they, um, they might be opening up to trade them.

Wes:

Oh, just rebuild around, giddy.

DeLaw:

Rebuild around DeRozan.

Wes:

DeRozan's 37?.

DeLaw:

Nah, DeRozan ain't that old.

Wes:

Yeah, he is. Nah, you're right 34.

DeLaw:

You can still rebuild around the road, but it all pretty much. It sounds like the.

Wes:

Rosen has the best mid game, not the best, the best, yeah, I'm gonna say he has one of the best mid-game in the NBA right now. He's had it for a long time.

DeLaw:

It seems like everybody's waiting to see what Paul George is going to do.

Wes:

Oh, if he's going to go to.

DeLaw:

I think if he goes to Chicago, demar DeRozan is going to re-sign himself. If he stays with the Clippers, I think DeMar DeRozan might be looking for a new deal from somewhere else.

Wes:

Shout out to all those guys, even Bronny. Yo shout out to all those guys, even Bronny, yeah, yo nevermind. I was going to say what does make you get too cat because you like? What if his rating is like? Just what if the whole world just trolls us and they be like his rating is at a 90? What if the world trolls us and they be like his rating is at a 90.?

DeLaw:

I think his rating. What if?

Wes:

the world trolls us and it's just like oh, he played a full season with the Lakers.

DeLaw:

His rating is going to be 78. 71. 71?.

Wes:

Yeah, yeah, 78 is kind of high If not lower.

DeLaw:

I honestly think he needs a 68, if not a 65. I don't think he should be rated higher than Scalabrini.

Wes:

All right, you crazy. Lebron's going to come to your house and Bryce is going to smack you up while LeBron watch, just for you, saying that Scalabrini, scalabrini is way better than him.

DeLaw:

Yeah.

Wes:

But you put him on par with Scalabrini.

DeLaw:

Hey look.

Wes:

Yeah, bryce is coming to slap you up. Bryce is coming to slap you up, bryce is coming to slap you up.

DeLaw:

Look, scalabrini was literally the lowest rated player in 2K Was the lowest rated player and that's why I said he can't be better than Scalabrini. So you either put him at the same thing, where you know, because I couldn't see Bronny play no defense. He got some athleticism that come with him. His jump shot a little broke. You know You're going to go there to LA. You're going to get a couple minutes JJ. You know the reason they even brought JJ Red again was to make sure that, to make sure that Bronny got some playing time.

Wes:

That's not why I honestly think this is. I honestly think this is going to be a situation where he plays a couple games, they fulfill it and he don't even go to the G. He might play the games in the G League and just bows out because he didn't want to do it in the first place.

Wes:

You don't think, so Fuck no, marcus and Jeff barely wanted to fucking play in college. Their dad was fucking Michael Jordan and then you got your dad as fucking LeBron. Do you really need to? Dad could literally set you up with a job and you can still live like a millionaire.

DeLaw:

The Jordan kids, that's a little different because they had a huge legacy to follow.

Wes:

What do you think? It's not Michael Jordan's legacy that LeBron has. Lebron has his legacy. It is still a huge legacy for his kids to follow, Nah.

DeLaw:

I feel like LeBron has his legacy. It is still a huge legacy for his kids to follow. Nah, I feel like it's not. Lebron's legacy is a whole lot easier to follow than Michael Jordan's legacy.

Wes:

Yo, any put is a thing they only and me and my homie talked about this. No matter what NBA player kid is in the NBA, ex NBA player kid is in the NBA, Ex-NBA player kid is in the NBA you first. You still have to prove that you are at least who your daddy's son is. You know your daddy's son or you surpass your dad. The only one that has really effectively been able to do that is Steph.

DeLaw:

Yeah, and Kobe's dad is in the NBA.

Wes:

That's right. That's the only one. So huge legacy, no matter what I think. Austin.

DeLaw:

I think Austin Rivers did a good job.

Wes:

No, Austin Rivers talks too much and does nothing. You know him right. I still say Austin no, kobe and Steph are the only two. You know him right. I still say Austin no, no, he has not done. Kobe and Steph are the only two.

DeLaw:

If I had to choose what legacy I had to follow, I'd rather follow LeBron, because it's hard to follow If I'm the same height as my dad and I'm Michael Jordan's kid there's only one that's the same height as his dad yeah.

Wes:

Bryce, we're close to it. That's the one we're talking about. That's why I said, bronny, I can't see it. I think this is just for some. This is literally to have something to talk about and to break a record.

DeLaw:

Yeah, Bronny is small.

Wes:

He like 6'4" right, 6'2" right. Something like that, yeah, I mean still you know taller than me, but but, still.

DeLaw:

I mean, it's like you're going to try and follow your dad's legacy. First off, your dad was a was a freak of nature as far as what he was doing when he came in. He still was. When he first got in. He kind of lived up to the hype and then kind of grew into the hype, because the only person in my opinion that really kind of really lived up to the hype was Carmelo. When they first got in Dwayne Wade what are you talking about Dwayne Wade?

Wes:

How are you going to get?

DeLaw:

Dwayne Wade like that. But honestly I still think Melo should have won Rookie of the Year. Yeah, Cleveland was horrible, I said. Well, Denver was horrible too.

Wes:

Denver was extremely horrible.

DeLaw:

But Melo took his team to the playoffs in a harder division and LeBron didn't make the playoffs.

Wes:

But that was the same year that Dwyane Wade was crossing everyone up.

DeLaw:

Yeah, because did the Heat make the playoffs that?

Wes:

year, I can't recall. I want to say I want to say they did. I want to say they did yeah, because I think Shaq came over what year two of Shaq came over year three.

DeLaw:

No, he came year three. Year two he came in year two yeah because that that that was a year that they lost to the Pistons. Right, yeah, that was the year that they lost to the.

Wes:

Pistons right, yeah, that was the year they lost. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it was year two of the win. Yeah and it was stacked too.

DeLaw:

Yeah.

Wes:

Yeah, shout out to those guys, Bronny, we're going to see what you're going to do, yeah.

DeLaw:

He did make the playoffs his first year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they beat the Hornets and then lost to the Pacers.

Wes:

Yeah, we're going to see what y'all are going to do, and I'm not a determinant if me or DeLaw gets 2K Pretty much yeah. But on that note, thank everybody for tuning in and see you next time.