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• Wes/DeLaw • Season 8 • Episode 15

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Time to sip wine and break out the "Sharkoochie" board as DeLaw and Wes discuss facts vs opinions in life and relationships along with draggin' employers for being them....MESSY! 

Wes:

Your wife might be contributing to the grays. You know what I mean. I'm not saying that's me.

DeLaw:

You know, I'm just glad she's not contributing to the grays, because if she was contributing to the grays, that'd have to be a conversation between us, like, look, we're contributing to these grays, I'm trying to look young and fabulous when we go out to these probates and these things, where they're like, why your husband look old as shit, right, and I'm trying to look, I'm with them to be like, excuse me, ma'am, is that your son? No, he's my husband.

Wes:

Instead of waking up in the morning randomly one day and say look at my face, look what you did to me, Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Fallout podcast, the According to Wes podcast. You got me, Wes, and you got, you got.

DeLaw:

DeLaw the aristocrats, today I am, uh, drinking my wine.

Wes:

I had my cheese and salami and pepperoni and so that's the word you was messing up charcuterie. What was you saying? Now I'm thinking about it. That was the other word that you was messing up doesn't matter what I was saying.

DeLaw:

Just you know, the wife ignored me the whole time. I was like trying to say the words. She was just like I'm not listening to you.

Wes:

Every time to be funny. When that comes up, I always say Sharkoochie. My wife hates it. That's what it sounds like. The Sharkoochie board, the Sharkoochie Board, the Sharkoochie Board. What the what, sir?

DeLaw:

Yeah, the Sharkoochie Board. Boo, you suck.

Wes:

Oh, my Yo, John Cena.

DeLaw:

Retiring, he retiring.

Wes:

Yeah, in 2025. Retiring, he retiring, yeah, in 2025 yeah, when I seen that this morning I was thinking like that has to be like the second um WWE figure that has kind of made his name for himself in Hollywood, to a figure that has kind of made his name for himself in Hollywood To a how can I put it? Not popular, but just like to a good extent. I know Batista is there, but I think John Cena shit is above Batista in acting.

DeLaw:

I was going to say Hulk Hogan, I didn't even think of him.

Wes:

Man. We don't even think of him, we don't recognize him.

DeLaw:

I'm just saying Hulk Hogan was the first one to get a main thing in the house.

Wes:

What I'm saying is can he act? Would you be willing to see movies with him in it?

DeLaw:

I saw quite a few with him in it when I was a kid, because I didn't know what good acting was. Okay, I'm talking about as an adult.

Wes:

You're an aristocrat. Now You're drinking wine with your pinky up. It is a red solo cup, but it is wine in that cup.

DeLaw:

Hey look man, Look, look, look.

Wes:

Alright, you gotta let me arist that when you moved it right there it just blurred out the cut.

DeLaw:

Let me arist right into it man. I got wine glasses, but you know who the fuck want to wash them.

Wes:

I got you.

DeLaw:

Exactly. I can just toss this in the trash, you know.

Wes:

I got you.

DeLaw:

You got to work smarter, not harder.

Wes:

True, true, true, true. If Hulk Hogan thought about that, he'd be a better actor. But listen so we ain't talking about Hulk Hogan, maybe, uh, uh. I mean you get Deebo, you get Zeus, tiny Lister. I mean you can kind of give him that because he gave us a classic. Yeah, he didn't give us, he was in a classic he was in a couple classics.

DeLaw:

I mean the hood classic was, you know. As far as other classics, you got Fifth Element, you know oh yeah, he was the.

Wes:

He was the president since you got Fifth Element, you know.

DeLaw:

Oh yeah, Was he in Fifth Element? Yeah, he was.

Wes:

Oh yeah, he was the. He was the president. Remember where he was the president? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that ain't another Okay.

DeLaw:

I didn't say it was a new classic, I just said a classic Another classic yeah yeah yeah, yeah.

Wes:

Yeah, that was a, was it Mila Jovovich? Jovovich Bruce.

DeLaw:

Willis.

Wes:

Chris Tucker. Yeah, who else was in that motherfucker? It was a lot of people in that movie.

DeLaw:

Yeah, it was quite a bit A lot of people. I know what other movies they played in, but a lot of them were in that.

Wes:

I can't, yeah, I can't think of their names at the moment, but of course you know I named them, the main four. Yeah, man, john Cena, the Rock, has pretty much solidified himself as an action guy, you know what I mean. He kind of took over Arnold Schwarzenegger and the junk, not karate man action guy, but action guy Like a step above Tom, if I dare say Tom Cruise.

DeLaw:

I mean he had to work his way up to be the action guy.

Wes:

No, I'm not saying that he didn't. I'm definitely saying from the WWE WWF.

DeLaw:

There was a couple of films he was in where he had to play like a role where he wasn't fighting. Yeah, he was doing, I mean I, a role where he wasn't fighting. Yeah, I'm not saying it wasn't action, but what was that? One where he was a helicopter pilot, a rescuer, yeah one leg Couldn't tell you.

Wes:

I know what you're talking about, or?

DeLaw:

even when he was in Be Cool and he played the gay bodyguard.

Wes:

I actually like that movie yeah.

DeLaw:

So he worked his way up.

Wes:

Yeah, yeah, most definitely.

DeLaw:

To be labeled as an action Action guy Action guy.

Wes:

Now John Cena. On the other hand, John Cena has a lot of diversity. That's what I was going to say. I've seen him in some uh comedic roles and I'm like, okay, he's timing is pretty damn good as far as uh when it comes to comedy and shit I saw him in blockers where he had to play a parent who was trying to keep their kids from having sex yes, and he was a stay-at-home dad for the most part, I think yo, I seen it at the movie theater.

Wes:

I seen that at the movie theater. Remember the part when he was in the window and he saw the other parents having sex and he kind of looked in the eyes of the guy that was cummin' at the same time that he was looking at him and shit, that's so fucking weird. That's so fucking weird. But that movie was funny. I really don't get those vibes from the Rock. Not that he's not versed, I mean, he only plays one or two roles.

Wes:

And the movie he did with Kevin Hart when he was CIA, yeah essentially yeah that was one of the funniest roles I've seen the Rock in, and I don't know if that's just because of Kevin Hart. Like their chemistry made him funny. Like their chemistry made him funny. Like their chemistry made him funny. You know, I can't really recall too many movies where I had to see the Rock be comical like that.

DeLaw:

Either way. He had a tooth fairy, didn't watch it, it was hockey or the game playing. He played a football player. Tooth fairy, he played a hockey player. I didn't watch it, it was hockey or the game playing. He played a football player Too fair.

Wes:

He played a hockey player Didn't play it I mean didn't watch it, I guess.

DeLaw:

So he, he, he. You know how, like you get into certain industries, you got to pay your dues by playing certain roles.

Wes:

I think the Rock was like I do not want to go back to wrestling because I pretty much did all that I can do, and if want to go back to wrestling because I pretty much did all that I can do, If I go back it's just for the love of the game.

DeLaw:

I got to make it work in Hollywood. I think of his last couple movies he's done yeah, it's been all action. In the very beginning of his career he had a lot of Escape from Witch Mountain.

Wes:

Remember that.

DeLaw:

Oh yeah, I remember that movie. He had a lot of comedy suspense thriller. He he had a lot of comedy suspense thriller. He had stuff that wasn't all action. Now he's pretty much been almost all action. Oh well, you know he did the TV series.

Wes:

What was that one with Denzel Washington's kid Ballers? I wanted to watch that, but it just I'm going to go back to it. I heard that was a good series.

DeLaw:

I haven't watched any of it it didn't appeal to me too much, but I did watch an episode or two, and that's when I kind of saw Denzel Washington's kid kind of as a good actor. I was like, okay, maybe you can act now. Mind you, it was within his realm of being an athlete which kind of gave him that like little edge of all right cool. But he he is. He has got even got progressively better as well as far as, like, not just wrestlers going to acting but as far as athletes in general going into acting. He has gotten better, like even terry cruz, even when he first got into it. He's honed that this is what I'm going to be in these movies and they're going to ask me to dance with my shirt off. He's cool with that.

Wes:

That's fine, I ain't got nothing to say about that, Even when he was.

DeLaw:

What was that movie? He was in Training Day with Denzel and he was. He played. He played one of the thugs. I was like it's not believable. But I mean, but he didn't, he didn't have any speakers right standing there like it was, like I believed it, but I didn't believe it I would say like this I didn't even remember he was in that fucking movie until he was like, yeah, I was in the movie.

Wes:

I'm like what well he's in the birds right, the pigeons right? I didn't even remember until, like, I watched something and I was like, oh yeah, he's definitely in that fucking movie, yeah.

DeLaw:

I think, I think for wrestlers. I honestly think it's an easier transition for them to actors versus, I think the best dynamic and entertaining wrestlers.

Wes:

it's easy. The rest of them I don't.

DeLaw:

I think the rappers and some of the athletes, I think they have a harder time transitioning over into it.

Wes:

They play themselves basically in movies. There's no range.

DeLaw:

I'm not saying that John Cena was any better. I'm not even saying that Triple H was any better, because he was in one of those movies with the vampire chick. He was in Blade. Was he in Blade? Yeah, the third one.

Wes:

But he didn't have any. There wasn't really no speak, it was just like he was a body and like oh shit, Triple H, that's what you went to. Go see that movie for Right.

DeLaw:

So you got. Matter of fact, even Stone Cold had better acting. Who?

Wes:

was Stone Cold then.

DeLaw:

In Cold had better acting than who was Cold Cold man In the Longest.

Wes:

Yard with Adam.

DeLaw:

Sandler. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, remember Goldberg was in it a couple of years. Like it was the weirdest thing when he said nigga and he like Because he was a CO.

Wes:

Yeah, he was a CO there, yeah.

DeLaw:

And when he said it and they hit him and they caught him with the clothesline and he's I think he shit himself. I was like yo and you know, nelly can't rap in my, nelly can't not rap, nelly can't act in my opinion, but he did even. Even Michael Irvin did good in that.

Wes:

Michael Irvin acted like Michael Irvin.

DeLaw:

Right, but it was believable.

Wes:

Shout out to Michael Irvin.

DeLaw:

Shout out to everybody trying to do it.

Wes:

True testament that cocaine really don't fuck with the body like that.

DeLaw:

That's crazy.

Wes:

Oh man, did you ever hear, like uh, that story? I mean, I'm pretty sure you heard about it. Like they, they had a house called the white house, and the reason why it was called the white house is because that's all they did on their off time was cocaine and just had girls up in the train and just like having a ball before the games in the 90s.

DeLaw:

Sounds like any given Sunday.

Wes:

Yeah.

DeLaw:

That was back when LT actually almost act when he played a football player.

Wes:

So I guess man, the 90s man, Shout out to the 90s.

DeLaw:

LT still alive, right? Yeah, I think so. Okay, I didn't want to make that joke and he'd be dead and I'm like damn, that's fucked up but he had a good run.

Wes:

I mean either way yeah think about that. I mean, I ain't gonna think about that. I was just uh, I was uh, I was talking to my wife and shit. Just not too long ago uh, actually 30 minutes ago and she was like nah, I came across this article and it said it was Shannon Sharpe and it says the necessary evil to Shannon Sharpe, says he has to do to have a body like this at 56. And in my head I'm like testosterone steroids, uncle Shea, stop it, stop it.

Wes:

I read the article. You know how it's like one of them fake articles that just tell you a bunch of collective stuff. I didn't even get past to the point where he actually said if he did or didn't. However, I was like I was telling my wife I'm like, look, that's how I'm trying to be. I said not as big, but I want all your female friends, whoever be, like damn your husband, look good with 56.

DeLaw:

So hey all I'm saying about Uncle Shea is look, I get he. You know Uncle Shea is the man you know and I know he got a lot of celebrity friends, but he can't be on the sideline at Lakers game trying to fight the players. We know you bigger than all the niggas.

Wes:

Nah man.

DeLaw:

Remember when he was trying him and John Warren's dad, oh yeah that was kind of just like weird to see.

Wes:

It was weird to see.

DeLaw:

I remember that because he said what he said, but it was just kind of like yo say what I said we know you bigger than all the guards and the shooting guards in that league and you're about the same size as these new breed of small forwards. Why are you trying? We know you're about 267 pounds. You ain't got to be trying to bully niggas like that. Yeah, but I will say this interview he's done so far with Cat Williams I ain't going to be like just looking at it, whether it was true or not, whether he exaggerated any of it that was probably the most talked about thing I've ever seen in my life.

Wes:

I still never seen it in its entirety. Once the damage is done. I'm just like I'll just check the clip, so I ain't got time to sit through all this.

DeLaw:

I saw it in its entirety twice, once while I was at work and I had nothing to do, and the other one was when I went to go see my homeboy. I think the Ravens were playing in the playoffs that day. No matter what they were playing, the Steelers and the Steelers won, they made the playoffs, or whatever. So I was hanging out with him and we were drinking some vodka that he promotes and the chick we was staying with was watching it and I was like yo, I heard it. So we, but we in there playing phase 10 and watching, uh, watching that. So I'm like, oh, I was like dang, that's, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, man, yep, I think, did you see it? Babe? You watched it.

DeLaw:

I think she watched some of it, maybe a little bit, no, not even like a clip of what, of the Cat Williams uh thing with Shannon Sharp. Yeah, I watched the whole thing. Yeah, sorry, I was on my phone. Yeah, she watched the whole thing. I was at work and she's working on something and just listening to it. Yeah, she listened to it while working and that was good listening. I ain't gonna lie. I feel like people were very productive at work while listening to that, because it was like, oh shit, why you still doing your work. And it's like, oh, you might stop for a minute to hear what he said. Oh damn, you just yeah. These workplaces need to start incorporating little soft jazz. Maybe some.

Wes:

Soft jazz.

DeLaw:

Maybe a couple little R&B old hits, you know.

Wes:

Listen, you do that on your own time. I'm telling you you work with your headphones on. I do it all the time, Like you work with your headphones on.

DeLaw:

I do it all the time. Look, my soon-to-be old supervisor used to well, not used to. He would play like old school stuff, like from the 70s, like he would play like some I's and all that, and you'd be like, all right, I see you over there. And then all of a sudden felt more productive, like I was like doing some work. I was like, okay, doing work. I felt like I was getting shit done. I was like man, why don't we do this all the time?

Wes:

yo, it's some. It's some truth to that, though like certain music for certain people like I make this joke with my wife all the time like, uh, like women, and when they go shopping and uh, house music, if that motherfucker pumping in that fucking store, oh they buying everything because it just goes to the beat like that. What is it like? 120 BPM?

Wes:

you grab and sit off the rack and shit. You know doing this shit like, okay, I'm gonna get this, put it in the cart, like if that fucking house music going, I'm like, hey, she's spending a rag of money on that motherfucker that's what she doing.

DeLaw:

When I used to work at Express for the six to three to five times I actually worked there in the course of two and a half years. That's what they played.

Wes:

House music. It get motherfuckers buying shit for some reason. For some reason. They know what they're doing but ever 21, like whenever I was like fake with a you know, oh yeah, let's go in here and shop type shit with a girl or I'm watching her shopping shit.

DeLaw:

That's all that was playing house music because they wouldn't put me out on the floor. So they told me say you're not gonna put you on the floor, we'll just have you tagging stuff and putting sensorsors on stuff. I was like, oh alright, cool, that's fine, I didn't want to be on the floor anyway. So then it was like, yeah, we didn't put you out there just because when people are out there, we need them to look a certain way to encourage people to I will fuck that whole store up for somebody saying that to me.

Wes:

I know it to be true, but don't fucking just end my face ugly.

DeLaw:

No, no, you want me to work for you, for the wages and then low-key call me ugly. No, hey, they can low-key, but I told you the story about how we were back there and the dudes were telling me how to steal clothes from out of there.

Wes:

No, I don't remember this.

DeLaw:

Oh, I didn't tell you.

Wes:

Oh, my Lord, you know, they in bankruptcy because of probably because of y'all stealing clothes.

DeLaw:

Well, I was at the Annapolis store. Annapolis store was one of the highest grossing stores.

Wes:

They still in bankruptcy? Oh yeah, of course they are. They shit not on the stock market, no more, and some more shit.

DeLaw:

Yeah, more and some more shit, yeah, so, oh yeah, I remember when I used to have them as a stock man, I was like why are they so low? It's holiday time, trying to sell, and they, they couldn't do nothing, man. But now, because my first day there, it was like they didn't want people to be on the floor, they had me back there tagging it so for the censor. So I was back there talking to the dudes and I was like I can't wait to get out of here so I can get me a drink. Oh, you drink too. Yeah, man, I'll be coming in this. Drink lit, man. I got some in my bag. If you want some, I'm like.

Wes:

Oh my gosh.

DeLaw:

So then they're like yeah, you know, sometimes you know how I, you know, blah, blah, blah, I'll steal some shit, whatever. And they were telling me how to do it. So one of the managers, I guess, of one of the things, comes around. She's like she says to one of the other managers because one of the other managers was my girlfriend she was like why does he never?

Wes:

talk to you. I remember this story. I remember this story. I remember this story.

DeLaw:

I was like you know, and like that's your girl, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like you didn't tell us you you was the boss, like we telling you all this stuff, I said, man, look, I'm about to be here for three days tops, like I ain't tripping on that like, so I'm trying to save it so that they still talking to me, so I can have people to hang out with outside of, like just me and her, and then ain't even rocking with me. They like man.

Wes:

Nigga you on NARC at that point yeah.

DeLaw:

I was like how, mind you, the dude still ends up getting hemmed up. I never got around even telling him. So by the time I said, yeah, we're having a homeboy. Oh yeah, we call him. Still. I said, oh yeah, he told me how to do it too. Why didn't you say that beforehand? I said I don't work there. I was working there for the holidays. Because you asked what the fuck you mean.

Wes:

That is a very peculiar situation to be in Like jeez louise.

DeLaw:

Then they told me I was pretty enough to be out there on the floor.

Wes:

I mean shit, you didn't tell me that part where you originally told me the goddamn story. You just said that you told me the other part of that story.

DeLaw:

I mean they didn't tell me that, they just eventually put me on the floor.

Wes:

That was a way of saying it. Like we want this place to look a certain way when people come in here to shop it, like we want this place to look a certain way when people come in here to shop. That's just like saying that's just like. That's almost as worse as saying like yo, we want white people to come in, we need the black people in the back hey look, that's what gaithersburg that that tutor center in gaithersburg said to me, was pretty much oh how how we now.

DeLaw:

We never talked about that I mean they didn't have to say it when she looked at me, because my resume, especially when it comes to the education field, is top-notch. It's a resume that people who have worked 30 years strive to have when it comes to the education field. When that lady got on that thing and she saw that I was a black man man, the look on her face was like they know me. I mean, like she was in like complete shock because, you see, you see my first name, and my first name isn't necessarily with black people. I don't even I don't even know one other person with my name who is black and he played for the Raiders and that was for like two seasons with the last name, graham.

Wes:

I don't even know that person.

DeLaw:

But everybody else that has that name is white. So probably when she looked I was like oh yeah, nah, this person, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, they'll be perfect, perfect, because you have a generic ass last name too oh yeah, you look.

DeLaw:

you look at me like. She's like oh, oh god, oh, when she got herself to guess, how are you doing today? I'm so sorry that I'm a little late today and I'm like. I just I was like oh, oh Lord, but she had the shot she's like. So the next phase will be this, this and this, and I'm going to just get my findings over to whatever I'm like, you know, in my head, I want to believe that someone just out-interviewed me. You know what I mean. Like someone just, really just out-interviewed me, because I mean, clearly, I still don't know the purpose of what interviews do, except for the fact that weed out who's lying about their resume.

Wes:

But the thing is my wife's been in management like you can. The resume and the interview can go well and they still be a shitty person. It just has to be some other way than interviews like that to actually get a good employee, because it just it's like it's still 50-50, no matter what, you can have everybody good on paper and even personality-wise, but your company is some shit and the people that's coming in is like you know what? I'm not dealing with this shit. I can go somewhere else and be straight, right. So interviews are weird yeah.

DeLaw:

How are your french fries? Good, I'm actually in fish stew, or something like that. Oh, okay, french fries, what? I'm actually in fish stew, or something like that. Okay, did you cook all the french fries? No, it's all in the pan and then it's all in the pot. Okay, I'm telling you, man, you know, the first time I've ever heard anyone say to me that I was their first pick to hire was the farm of the hill. And I'm wait, I'm your first pick. They was like yeah, yeah, like you really impressed us the first time. I'm like I had half a brain to ask is it because I'm already with the state or because Yo just take it and run with it, man.

DeLaw:

Yo, that is a boss story.

Wes:

I was their first pick. Niggas know what I'm about. You know what I'm about I, I, I, you know what I mean? Like, do all that shit.

DeLaw:

What you're saying is I should be like was AI was the number one pitcher, so I should be like AI. I know what y'all get. What's up.

Wes:

Yo, you just walking in the bar playing that Rich Homey Kwan uh.

DeLaw:

Oh, I've already told my supervisor. I said I'm walking out playing my tribal chiefs on the room range entrance. When you see me walking out with the one finger up like this Hold up.

Wes:

So Monday you start Monday.

DeLaw:

I start Wednesday. My last day is Tuesday. So everyone, including the wife, is trying to encourage me to take some days off before going to the new job. They're like, you know, I would take a day to kind of decompress and say, well, I don't see the point of it. I'm not going from, you know, state to federal or state to local or state to private, I'm going state to state. So if I was going to lose time then I would take it. If that means like there'll be no reason for me to save time that I know I'm going to lose and not be paid out for, I might as well just use it.

DeLaw:

But in this case, because I'm going from state to state and I get to keep all my stuff, it's it's literally just like if, uh, my boss told me all right, you're going to meet me at this particular location, going forward In my head, that's how it is to me that instead of me reporting to our central location, I'm now going to another central location. That's kind of how I see it. I just you know Now, if it was the fans that called me, I'd have took my seven personal days that they can't ask me shit for, and I would have taken that from Friday, so not the week that just passed, but Friday of the prior week. I would have taken those five days plus this Monday, and now it came in on Tuesday, did my exit interview and rolled out. That's what I would have did.

Wes:

Yeah, I mean, both are good points. Like yo, like what's the point? And yeah, I get it, I would. Um, yeah, it also depends on that fucking workload Like yo, like did they Did I Never mind. Workload like yo like the day did I never mind. I ain't gonna say that. See you work to the very end and I already told you like sometimes, when that two weeks is in, I already fucking check the fuck out. I ain't doing a lot of uh and I ain't doing a lot of fuck shit yeah, you know what you know.

DeLaw:

Someone asked me you remember we we did a podcast on about uh quiet quitting something, yeah, yeah and they were asked. They was like so, d-law, did you quietly quit? I said no. I made my very verbal.

Wes:

Very verbal and loud. Their horns was everywhere.

DeLaw:

Look people who I don't even, I didn't even know, like that was. Like I heard you leaving, our chief of staff was like oh, I heard you're changing sides on us. I was like, oh, I heard you, you're, uh, you're changing sides on us. I can't believe it. And I looked at her. I said we got some more money for you. I'm more than welcome to, more than happy to stay. And she just looks at me like no no go ahead and, uh, go ahead.

DeLaw:

And you know, move on, it'll probably be a good experience, but you know be a good experience. But you know, bitch, you betraying us. I was like really Tiva's that, like it's the weird help me, help you not to feel betrayed like it was so many people, because, you know, when we moved to our new building, everybody's like, oh man, fuck this shit, I'm trying to get out of here and I'm like, oh, I'm already out. I was out there. Oh, I'm already out. I'm like, wait, what you out? I said yeah.

Wes:

I'm out. I was out that first day. I did fucking 15 hours.

DeLaw:

Exactly, I did 15 hours my first day. I was already out, I was already out, y'all just didn't know. Oh man, I was out and everyone's like I'm trying to get out, trying. They're like oh you look. Well, look, if they got anything.

Wes:

Let me know, all right people, when people talk like that was like yo, so you just haven't been job searching. You was just like like sitting in your own you know, wallowing in your own self-pity and shit, like I need a better job, and not actually doing anything to try to get a better job.

DeLaw:

Well, I think what everybody's doing and I'm guilty of this too and I encourage my wife to be guilty of this, but she went about it the right way Take your time and job search. I mean, if you got a job and it pays the bills, there's no rush to just find anything to get out. You know what I mean and you can be select, especially if you know that your job's not in jeopardy. It's one thing. If your job's in jeopardy, like mine was. When I came from the stockpile over, I had 16 months to find a job, and 16 months in this job, in this whole job thing, ain't a lot of time. But now, being with the state, I have time to be like all right, well, in six months, for this next six months, I'm not going to job search, I'm not going to do nothing, I'm going to just work this job and as I get closer and closer to a year, then I will look and see what else is out there so I can invest, you know, advance my money, you know. So that's the benefit you have either being at County, like my wife was at one point, or being in the state, or the feds, like you have that option to kind of know that you're going to be securing your job and if your job isn't going to be there, they'll move you. Unless they really just don't like you, they'll move you. They'll move you somewhere. So we're going to find you a position that says such or whatever. However they do it. So you get.

DeLaw:

You have certain luxuries to be calm to find a job. But when you reallyuries to be calm to find jobs, but when you really want to be out, then you really start job searching. And that's what my wife really wanted to be out. So she job searched hard as shit. She had more interviews than me in the span of two weeks than I had in a span of like five years. Sheesh, like she was getting. Like I had in the last five years. I had three interviews. When she came over to the state she had interviewed for like 10 jobs and Adam gave her an offer. I'm like how the hell she's like you know, hey, man, when you like that, you like that and I'll be mad at it. Like when you like that, hey, and I'm like I need to find out what her method is. So I can be like that too, because you know I'm like you got eight. You tell me you can't even write. You're like I wrote my resume but I suck at it. But you got eight interviews, ten interviews.

Wes:

Hey, yoshi, she her listen. She's just probably qualified as fuck.

DeLaw:

That's how that shit works and then turn around, get eight offers and she's like, ah too low, too low. Ah too low, too low. Maybe here we go.

Wes:

That's a good fucking problem to have, man.

DeLaw:

A great problem. I want that problem. Shit. I gotta look at the one offer I got, like God damn, this is what they giving me.

Wes:

I ain't got nothing else Shit. Good fucking problem to have.

DeLaw:

Oh, wow.

Wes:

Fucking hilarious. Yo question for you.

DeLaw:

I don't know if I want to answer, but all right.

Wes:

You kind of you kind of you kind of you can be silent, but I don't think you will, since you you will, since you know you're an aristocrat shit drinking your wine. So yep, I just finished this bottle so who do you have disagreements more with, when it comes to opinions versus facts, friends, your wife, when it comes to opinions versus facts. Who do I have more of Friends, your wife or random coworkers?

DeLaw:

And be honest, and be honest. Listen that person behind you, and I only say that because me and my wife have lived two different lives. Okay so our opinions about things are based on our environment, and our facts about things are things that we have to actually encounter, so we know the actual information behind it but that could be said about any two people, right. Yeah, any two people. But I have and I'm not saying that me and my wife have these outlandish disagreements where it's like you sleep on the sofa, you bum-ass nigga.

DeLaw:

No, it's just more like I'll ask a question. She'll tell me her thing, I'll tell her my opinion. She'll be like, well, this is what I know for a fact, that this is, this is this. I said, well, I never heard that. Well, guess what it is, nigga. And it's like, all right, well, shit. Or she'll ask me a question. I'll be like, well, no, that's not how this goes, because I know from the process of this is that, well, how do you know this? Because that it I have more disagreements with her about things than I have with anybody else, but that's also because I talk to her the most.

Wes:

So okay, definitely understand that one. I talk to my wife the most too and we do have our disagreements as far as like facts, over opinions and shit. But I mainly have minds with my friends because we all come from, come from different I mean, I come from a different background and wife and friends and shit like that. But to give you an example, like one of the things that me and my wife disagree about as far as like, what's the fact or is it just my opinion?

Wes:

There's a little stuff from my childhood like we grew up. We didn't grow up together, but we grew up uh, same, you know, the same decade, same timeline, black family, this, this and that, black friends, blah, blah, blah. So there's just certain things collectively as the black culture. During that time, you kind of you know, you kind of know you guys have the similar experiences. So one day we're talking uh, you know how, like you, you know how, like when you was a kid, you were like oh, you farted, you got the fart touch Shields. She thought it was Chills. See, don't fuck with me, it's not, it's not Chills.

DeLaw:

She thought it was.

Wes:

Shields no, don't do this, don't. So we had a whole fucking.

DeLaw:

I was like no, you said. She said Chills right With a C-H, this don't so we had a whole fucking.

Wes:

I was like you said. She said chills, right, with a ch, I thought it was shields. With an sh, it is chills. Okay, I thought it was chills. So in my head I'm like, because when you look like that I was like, don't be one of them that she thought it was chills like what the hell you're going to?

Wes:

chills a fart so, so, so, right, so, right, right, right, right, right, right. So we go through this whole thing. She was like that don't even sound right. I was like no, it's a fact, think about it. I am shielding myself from the fart touch. I mean, I say I'm about to fuck it up shields. So we go through this whole thing, talking back and forth this, you know not arguing, but you know going back and forth very animated and shit like that. We had to get alexa and google involved. They couldn't handle it, so we actually get on our phone.

DeLaw:

You sound like you got attorneys.

Wes:

Listen, in this house, that's who we defer to, sometimes the next one of them motherfuckers. So I get on my phone or whatever, and I show her. She was like I've been living a life of a lie and I was like you've been saying the wrong shit.

DeLaw:

Me and my wife had those discussions about lingo and what it means, and I'll be like, oh yeah, this is what it meant when I was coming up. And she's like oh well, no, this is what it meant when I was coming up. And I'm like how, so we do that?

Wes:

Yeah, so those are some of the things that we and I don't know if you can really consider that like facts versus opinion, but it's like I could see how, like, uh, like shared experiences, and y'all both think it's fact, but at that point is your opinion. You know that it will do. You got your back wrong because it's your opinion that it was chills because you don't even know what you were saying, you was just saying it, but I knew it was chills because when you, cognitively, you know, think about it, you're shielding yourself from the part such whatever you know yeah, I will say because I know with the young kids when we talk about lingo.

DeLaw:

So I don't get in discussion with about it because I know they're gonna have their own language, just like my parents didn't get discussing with me about the lingo we had. But the one thing I can't get past is the drip.

Wes:

Oh I get that, so it's kind of like um so well I understand what it is, yeah yeah, you know where derived from back in the day when you had to drip, you were learning.

DeLaw:

You know I'm saying you so. When they be like oh yeah, I got the drip. When it's like oh, my god, I gotta, I gotta think like I forgot about that. You got the drip like you're like eight years old. How the hell you got the drip? Who you fucking like it's like yeah so I, you know, I get.

Wes:

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Yeah, the lingo shit that's going to be forever changing in our culture. Sometimes the shit come back.

DeLaw:

When we used to say, oh yeah, my face is beat. When we used to say something was beat, it wasn't a dick.

Wes:

Exactly, exactly. I understand their term because that's it wasn't a game Exactly, but I understand their. But see, the thing is, I understand their term because that's what it's supposed, that term for, that is what it's supposed to be, because you know you go to wherever to go get your face beat and put makeup and shit like that, like I get that Beat still means. It means both.

DeLaw:

It still means both, but it still means like when someone beats you up in my head it's one of the things that has always had a negative thing to me, where someone's like when they start saying, oh, my face is beat, and I'm looking, I'm like I don't see no bruises, like fuck, you mean this beat. You know what I'm saying. Like I guess you know that's just me.

Wes:

You know, in my own world as I, me, you know, in my own, my own, uh, my own world, as I put it, yeah and no, I definitely get that.

Wes:

But, yeah, man, like that was just like one of the things where it's like yo, one one is like I said, I can't really say one is uh like her opinion, that that's what it was, because she thought that shit was to be true like fact. She was just saying what all everybody else was saying, the shit. I'm like, nah, it's the other way around. But as far as like, who I argue with most about, uh, like facts and opinions, is definitely uh, my friends or whatever, because they all how could I put it? They all are, uh, very opinionated and sometimes they let that, uh, that being opinionated actually cloud what holds to be true, because in the there is a how could I put it? In their life and in their environment, from their background, some of the things that we talk about, it actually was fact, and it's weird because it's kind of like, yeah, that could be fact for your life in this particular situation, but here's the other half of this story, or here's the other half of this scenario that you don't know about and that's why it's your opinion. Like one time we were, um, I think I was talking to my, uh, my homegirl about something. I cannot remember. Um, not, I think I was talking about something. But like, when it comes to matters of like, let's just uh, let's just say like the uh dating or the opposite uh, sex, or you know, just uh, interacting with them and shit like that. Let's use the common scenario of, oh, women saying they do this or this, this and that because that's what guys like and it was like certain things. This is why women do that, because that's what guys like and it was like certain things. This is why women do certain things because that's what guys like.

Wes:

And I would say to her, because she's still out there dating and shit, I'm like no, guys actually don't like that. Guys don't give a fuck about that, they kind of tolerate it because they want you around and I don't know how to handle certain things. So it was kind of like yo, you tell you, tell your girl that you're trying to get to know and stuff like that. Like I don't really give a fuck about that. Now you're telling her like yo, you wasted your time and I don't know how much time you could spend doing this, but no guy gives a fuck about that. You're not gonna. You know, we're not gonna say that willy-nilly.

Wes:

So I was saying that to her. She was like well, you just don't know, not all guys feel that way and in my head I'm like I can guarantee you they do. They just don't, they're not going to say it, just like I have not said it. But I'm saying it to you because you're my homegirl. I don't give a fuck about what you think what I'm about to say. Hopefully you'll still be my friend because we ain't, you know. So it's like stuff like that I get into like uh, fact versus opinion. When it comes to like my homeboy, we're like we're religion and and and what's supposed to be what in society, and this, this and that, and you know, and it's always coming. You know, like you said, it always comes from like uh, mainly with me and him is more or less like what our experiences have been right so, and we have different experiences and and stuff like that.

Wes:

But when it comes to certain things, it's was just kind of like yo, I've dealt with this before and this is how I handled it. This is how I probably should have handled it. Um, I can guarantee you, you know, most situations is going to turn out this way because of this, this and this. Oh yeah, man, as far as, like my wife, I don't really we don't really get into too many. Into too many. Now, we do, but it's about dumb shit, like I said, the far side shit.

Wes:

We don't really get into too many major facts versus opinion shit. Like even when we talk about like, just like stuff we see with couples or marriage and stuff like that. Like she has her opinion, I have my opinion. We can kind of agree on facts because we can see both ways, right, and it is also one of those things where it's like, unfortunately we're like men and women, since our brains are wired different ways, we're going to have different facts about the same thing Because they perceive it one way, we perceive it another. It is a fact for us and I can see why it's a fact for them, right, and situations like that I'm just like yo, can we meet in the middle? Most people like, nah, I ain't meeting in the middle, my shit is a fact wrong I'm just curious to think who does mrs smith?

DeLaw:

I think she gets disputes with a lot.

Wes:

It's you. You drink wine.

DeLaw:

Is that me? Yeah, half the time you don't even answer the question. Very much so that's the part that pisses me off the sarcasm. Anything specific? No.

Wes:

You should say cut this shit out, motherfucker. Yeah, the disagreement. I think the disagreement is always fine, Like whenever I talk to whoever I always leave, I try to leave with just like a different understanding, Like all right, I can see how you can get to that, and that's just and I'm cool. Here's the thing. I'm cool with the disagreement if I can, if we can at least get to the point where it's just like all right, I'm not trying to change your mind, you know what I mean. All that's pretty good.

DeLaw:

Yeah.

Wes:

The one thing I've been seeing or I might have seen it in passing is what I don't agree with Is like when that stuff happens, like fact versus opinion and shit how did it still be and we talked about it before Men being sassy there's still the underlying notion of like yo, let the woman have it, Let her have that situation, and I'm just like come on.

DeLaw:

I was even. It was funny because I re-listened to that podcast and then literally a meme showed up of a woman saying she doesn't like a sassy guy, but she wants a guy that will argue with her or whatever, stand his ground, but she wants him to let her win the argument. And he was like huh, he's like yeah, sassy is when you won't let me win, like I know you're right, but no, let me win that argument. So I'm like so wait.

Wes:

I'm sassy. Jordy, I'm an adult.

DeLaw:

I'm sassy because you're wrong, like come on, let's be real.

Wes:

Yeah, I'm sassy because you're wrong. Like, come on, let's be real. Yeah, that type of shit I'm just like come on, now, it's not even I. Yeah, I don't get that. Like yo, let me win, let me win.

DeLaw:

I've come to the conclusion. I'm glad I'm not in a dating game.

Wes:

Because, if it's put it this way, there's some people that are married to people like that. Just be happy that you just don't you away from it.

DeLaw:

In general, yeah, I'm like if you're going to argue with me and you're going to come with all feelings and opinions and I start pointing out facts and then putting out all this other stuff, don't get mad. Oh well, now you're being sassy. So I'm being sassy, like at this point, why you arguing with me? There you're arguing, you're arguing with me about about what something that bothers you I respond to. I give you a solid defense. Now I'm being sassy because now you damn, I lost that argument. Now you're being sassy. You supposed to let me win? No, I'm not supposed to anything if you, if you can't. You can't start an argument based on of feelings and opinion and then lose and then get mad because you lost because they know they lost like it's.

Wes:

It's really hard to because about it, most people can't stay wound up in their feelings when it comes to like the opinions or something that they don't like hearing. So, as you're arguing, they slowly but surely, sometimes they they come to their senses. So when the fifth or sixth time that you're hammering the facts, the hard proven facts, that's when they throw the nuclear bomb of well, I don't want to talk about it, no more, or whatever, man, we just have to agree to disagree I'm like what are we disagreeing about, motherfucker?

DeLaw:

So I come to the conclusion that once you start arguing with your woman, or a woman or someone who's your potential woman, someone who identifies as a woman, you know it doesn't matter.

Wes:

Yeah.

DeLaw:

Yeah, you could say one portion of it. They won't even hear the rest of it. But what they heard, they now rationalize it in their head. They now come up with a different narrative of well, you know what, your cooking was fine, but it could use a little bit of salt. So you say my food nasty, what? No, that's not what I said. It's salty, it's not nasty. It was good, it was good, it was good, it had a great flavor. It just needed a pinch of some MSG. Oh my gosh, my shit tastes nasty, like why the fuck did I even? It's like wait what, how did? Or you say something just to defend yourself. So what? Oh? So what you're saying is I'll just be nagging you or you? No, I said. All I said was I'll take the trash out in a minute. I had to take my book bag off All of a sudden. Now you're-.

Wes:

You're saying you're talking about grievances and not fact and opinion.

DeLaw:

I'm just saying, like those are the arguments that you end up getting into in this and when you back yourself on it.

Wes:

Oh, I see what you're saying when you back yourself up with the facts. Like I came in the house, I was in the process of taking off my book bag and you came to me and said this, this and this. I just wanted to take my book bag off and I was going to get the trash but you came at me like I, like I, you know, whatever, whatever I got you mind taking the trash.

DeLaw:

Oh yeah, okay, give me a minute. You see me walking to take my book bag off and take off my you know whatever. All of a sudden I was. Oh, you know, I'll just do myself what? Yeah, well, you, you just told me you weren't gonna do it. It I said give me a minute, I got a book, I ain't gonna lie.

Wes:

I love those I do it myself moments because either uh, they do it all messed up, they do it angrily and they don't do it like I do it. So you wasted your time and you're in and now they mad at you because they felt like they had to prove a point and could not even prove the point. What'd you want me to do?

DeLaw:

All you have to do is just wait a minute. You saw I was thinking of a book.

Wes:

What do?

DeLaw:

you want me to do. That's one of my issues that I've always had. It's like I can ask you to do something for me and you won't do it right then and there. But I'll be like, oh, I thought you were gonna do this. Oh yeah, my bad, I got. I got tied up watching this show, I got. But you asked me to do something. You want it done, right then and there. But if I, if I said, okay, cool, let me go use the bathroom, we'll kick. All of a sudden it's like, wow, you could. You could have just waited. Well, could I do? You know how long I've been holding this always listen.

Wes:

I, I, I hear my homeboy go through it with his wife. I hear other homies go through it with their significant others. It's always the same thing. I'm going to be honest, I actually don't have that. I don't have that particular problem. I have it.

DeLaw:

I'm not letting it bother me, all right.

Wes:

Because usually when I say I'm going letting it bother me, I'm all right, because usually when I say, usually, when I say I'm going to do something, it's not that it's done right away, it's just more or less like and this is like the gift and the curse when it comes to me. I don't like having a lot of stuff to do, so I'll probably, depending on, like that I run through the hierarchy of how much time it's going to take. If how much time it's going to take, if it's going to take two minutes, I'll probably do that before you know, I'll probably stop what I'm doing right now and then do it. And that's not because I'm like, oh, I don't want to hear her mouth. I never hear her mouth.

Wes:

I mean, you know, when it comes to that type of shit cause I'm always whatever, whatever, but uh, to do, it's just one of those things she just you know, she understands, like it is what it is. It ain't never really nothing that's going to really fuck her shit up, I guess. But the trash really shouldn't fuck your shit up either. You know what I mean. It's like it's full.

DeLaw:

Yeah, I got it, I got, you, I got you. I've started coming to the house. Is it something of dire need? Can I use the bathroom? Can I do this yo?

Wes:

you being a smart.

DeLaw:

That's what she meant by that sarcasm man when, when something, when something comes up and you and I'm all right, cool, I'm gonna do it in a second, let me use the bathroom it becomes, oh my gosh, you know, I'll just do it myself. So then I gotta ask is it something that's dire? Because it's like it's just something that needs to be done right now, that I need to drop what I'm doing, not do what I'm like, even if I would, let's say, I pulled up, I'm turning my laptop on so that I can do some tutoring. Um, okay, dude, can you do you mind getting the groceries out the car? Okay, cool, is it something that needs to be done? I only said it in the wintertime, not in the summertime.

Wes:

Because whatever's in there is melted or it's spoiled or whatever.

DeLaw:

Can you hold on until I tell this kid work on this page and not go out and do it? You know what? Don't even worry about it. I'm asking because you see, I'm in the middle of something that is supporting the house. You know what I'm saying? It's not like I'm just over here playing 2K. I could always set up AO, I'll be right back.

Wes:

I ain't going to dare say that, blanton.

DeLaw:

K yeah.

Wes:

I get it.

DeLaw:

I get it. It. I'll be right back, you know, and each time I come in the house I just walk up to the controller, move it a little bit, go back out to the next load.

Wes:

You know what I mean so so, to wrap this up right, do you think that facts belong in a marriage in order for it to be prosperous and both people happy? For men, not for women so facts don't matter to them? No, so it's all feelings, no facts all feelings, no facts. All feelings and opinions.

DeLaw:

Are these famous last words for DeLaw? You asked a question. That's how I feel. It's all feelings and opinions. Think about how they started. I feel, I feel. I feel it's never. This is what I've observed.

Wes:

Yeah, yo, yo yo. Whoever come to you with it like this is what I observed. Just know you already fucked up.

DeLaw:

But I can respect that. Yeah, I can respect that too. I can respect it. But if you tell me well you know, I'm the only one that emptied the dishwasher and not emptied the dishwasher the last six times what you mean, where's your facts? At you mad, because you emptied it out this time of the last six times that I've done it. So what part of your memory did you blank out?

Wes:

I ain't lying, I think I'm about to agree with you, man, just go get his boobage from him. Fox, do matters to us. Because it's kind of like yo, at least hit me with the shit that I'm supposed to be hit with, like some imaginary phantom stuff. It's like, come on now the reason why I know I did it because I cut my finger on the damn thing right here because it's broke. I got the scratch, I got the you know the cut to prove it.

DeLaw:

Then it's like oh well, when was the last time you did something? Oh, I did it on this day. Well, how do you know Because I wrote it on our board that we write it on what's been done, so we don't keep asking each other dumb ass questions what you mean.

DeLaw:

Yeah, I mean because, honestly, that's what it is. We got this thing where, if the dishes in the dishwasher clean, if you look to the left on the refrigerator, it says, if the stuff in there is clean, what day it was. I even went as far as putting dishwasher empty on that day, so that, even though it said clean, if it's emptied on that day now it's empty on that day. So now you know.

Wes:

Man, y'all chore-wheeling it up over there, we ain't doing that.

DeLaw:

Let me get closer to my. It was the easiest way I could figure out how to get accountability out of her. Oh man, Anything crazy to get accountability out of her. Oh, you know anything crazy, Because when it's written down there ain't no denying it. Well, who did it last?

Wes:

The crazy thing is when you got like, when you got Jesus, god and Mary level proof. That's the only time where it's just like you know what you're right.

DeLaw:

I'm like that's the only time. That is the only time, but that's how you gotta do it. You gotta look if there's any doubt. Women are really good at making you think like well damn.

Wes:

Like you fucked up, this nigga ass-laying shit. Like you fucked up. It was you fucked up, this nigga ass laying shit. Like you fucked up. I was like hold up, and it'd already be night night time.

DeLaw:

You in the bed thinking like shit, she got me Y'all sleep already, like, even with changing the cat litter, because it would always be the thing. Well, I cleaned it last. You know what? On this day, d-law cleaned the cat litter. Well, who cleaned it last? Did you look? Oh, okay, so then you know. Now let's say you go down there and you say you cleaned it the very next day. I have no proof that there was even anything in it, but you put your name on there saying you cleaned it. Therefore, it still falls to me anyway. Yeah so, but at least there's documents saying that. Okay, who cleaned it last? Because I, I make sure I put my name up there that I cleaned it.

DeLaw:

On what day, like today, I need to go down and actually clean it, but you, but you get the gist of it. Like I get the gist when we're done with this, I'm going to take the dishes out of the dishwasher and put the dishwasher is empty, so that that way there's never no confusion about what's going on with the dishes and the cat litter and all those things. So that way there's it's always documented, like. Because I mean, honestly, I feel like that was some of our bigger arguments anyway was who did what last and who was doing what? Now, mind you, there's no names about who emptied the dishwasher anything else else. But if it's empty we all know, including the kid stuff can go in there, so it should be no dishes in the sink. If it says clean, we get it. It's clean and empty, that means someone needs to empty it. But generally once I empty it I put dishwasher empty, so that that way it's known the dishwasher is empty. What's up, fat cat? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, leo to Don, yeah.

Wes:

Eli, yo, I don't like really being on camera, sir.

DeLaw:

Hey, look the fact that he hasn't jumped off and started biting me yet. He doesn't mind being on camera, ain't that right? Pood AKA Poop Monster AKA Throat Machine AKA Bitey AKA.

Wes:

Bitey, bitey McCatface.

DeLaw:

Yeah, because every time he needs something he bites me. He don't even bite my wife. Yeah, he don't even bite my wife. Ain't no food in this bowl. He bites my feet.

Wes:

Yo. Here's the thing Our cat taps and I'm like yo. Obviously I'm like, and usually she'll be tapping like yo, you in my space on the bottom. You're feeding away at the bottom of it, so I gotta fucking move my feet Just for her to lay down and go to sleep. I'm like this prissy-ass fucking cat man.

DeLaw:

Look, this is the most that he's actually sat here. When I sit down, he gets up and he just, he darts, he's just sitting here all chill. He looks like alright, nigga, I know you're talking about me, I just don't know what you're saying. I don't speak human. Yeah, he snows the catfish and french fries in my breath. He wants them. It's all gone, buddy.

Wes:

Remember, Leo, that's cat and fish. So hey, watch out, they eat cat.

DeLaw:

He ain't paying us no mind, he just.

Wes:

Yo, on that note. Fellas have your documentation in order.

DeLaw:

Yeah, that's how you win all arguments, documentations and facts.

Wes:

But it has to come from a man above his son and his mother. We thank y'all for tuning in. We thank y'all for tuning in. We thank y'all for tuning in and, uh, check us out next time.