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DeLaw:

what I want for christmas. I tell her don't give me shit. And she's like well, no, I got. I said you don't gotta give me shit.

Wes:

I don't know. I know I need something for the pain and suffering that the mind be putting me through throughout the year. I'm never I am never gonna say you crazy you crazy.

DeLaw:

All the all the art no, all the arguments.

Wes:

You knew you won, but you didn't win because you knew it was gonna escalate somewhere else, because they won back like a child. Hell, no, no, don't ever say that again, man. Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Court in the West podcast. As always, we got D-Law here.

DeLaw:

You got D-Law the brisk iced tea, strawberry melon, whitbacher drinker today.

Wes:

Okay, Always going to have the double son-in-law and I was going to ask if you're voting for Trump on Tuesday.

DeLaw:

No, no, no, no, no. I'm not voting for Trump. Someone asked me the other day it was like why do you say the double son-in-law, aren't you Christian? I said, well, you know, it was just catchy. You know you gotta have a catchphrase. You know it's like a wrestler, a wrestler name. Yeah, you gotta build a personality and then once it sticks and you go back to it periodically, then you can always change it based on how you feel in that day day. It'd be weird if I just started saying I was d-law, something else. I had to establish the son-in-law you know as the main character before I started character building myself into a new, evolved person yes, indeed, some shit.

Wes:

Some of my, um, some of my favorite rappers. I'm gonna say some of it. Yeah, some of my favorite rappers got wrestling type names. Uh, like Brazil that was doing that run for like a good two, three summers and stuff. So yeah, vinny the butcher, conway the machine West side gun, those all sound like wrestling wrestling names to me.

DeLaw:

So hey man, I'm trying, I'm trying to character build like my boy, cause now that he's home he's doing all his social media stuff going live and it's the weirdest thing. It's like it's like watching a real live, like TV show slash wrestler who, like he comes in, he hits the scene hard and he's violent, he's aggressive, he don't give a shit and then it's like, as time goes, he go bellow out it's like he mellows out and it's like alright.

DeLaw:

It's like it's like, as time goes, he go bellow out. It's like he mellows out and it's like all right. It's like he's like he did a face turn aka in the wrestling world called going from the bad guy to the good guy. Yeah, and it's like he did this face turn, but he still got that personality of fuck around and you will find out I ain't ducking smoke, I'm just not looking for it, no more.

DeLaw:

When I say it's like the biggest character build, I was like yo and I was talking to him the other day. I was like yo. I said you came on there flashing guns talking about something. Yeah, all on Facebook live. Yeah, he ain't talking shit. He made all soft ass, motherfucking man, fuck these bitches. Blah man, y'all all soft-ass motherfuckers, man, fuck these bitches. And I was like hey, look man, look, you got to take care of your body. Look, you got to be clean. You got to. You know I got moisturized. You know I got this stuff right. I got this right. It's for eczema. Like right now I'm cooking. Like yesterday he was doing stuffed peppers. He was like I got if I was to show you a clip from his first time being live to yesterday, you'd be like that is not the same motherfucker, that's quick Listen.

Wes:

I got.

DeLaw:

Uncle July.

Wes:

That ain't quick. I mean it is quick. I got Uncle Some of that stuff still come out. He's been home for about maybe 15 years now and it just it comes out. I ain't gonna say I'm not talking about every once in a while it comes out, or damn near every other interaction slash sentence. Not bad stuff, but just the wording and the agenda and the and the and the movements and the mannerisms. You'd be like damn he's still.

DeLaw:

You know what I mean Mm-hmm, it's bad, it's weird, because he'll call me on Facebook and we'd be chopping and I'd be like you know, we gotta go live one time. You know we gotta go live one time, we gotta talk about some shit. I'm like uh, uh, yeah, I want to. But it long as I was telling him, he said he had gotten an offer to come out to Vegas to do a podcast with somebody. A couple episodes, I was like go do it, man do it.

DeLaw:

He's like my anxiety ain't built. I said look, it's like when me and my boy first sat down and started recording I was scared as shit. But eventually, once you get in there, it's like you two having a conversation and then, because your personality kind of brings everyone in, really everybody be changing their styles just to fit your personality, because of how your personality is.

Wes:

So it'll run smooth, where you'll feel even more comfortable because of and he's like I'm gonna think about it, don't think about it, just do it you know, see, first tell him to see how that person talks to other people, because you don't want to go in there and you'd be like Dismal, because you're not expecting what you you know, because you don't know what he's going to expect.

DeLaw:

I'm expecting the best if he does do it. But it was more or less like. You know, you don't have no money backing anything you're doing and if people are looking at you trying to bring you on, you ain't got nothing to lose. I mean, really, it's just more publicity for you in the long run, unless that person really sets you up and try to get you triggered to do something crazy. But in the grand scheme of it, I'm assuming you know this person and they just want to come on because they want to get more views too and they like how your style is. So I was just kind of like I said go for it, man. Ain't nothing wrong with it, wrong with it at all. I mean, I know we haven't really been offering anything.

DeLaw:

I think the plaintiff, jane, asked if I wanted to come to the radio show one time, but that just fell through because of just timing. But that was more or less when we first got started and I was trying to like, really kind of like, all right, well, if I can reach out to certain people, maybe they'll put us on there. No, maybe we can finagle some get, maybe get out a little bit more. You know, yeah, but um, yeah, I still Terci, you know, because me and the Planet Jane, we go back to where she was my bartender, so I know.

Wes:

Is that the one that I might be mixing up people? They got the edible, the weed stuff popping. That's not her.

DeLaw:

I don't know. I don't think she does. I know she does a lot of. Originally, her YouTube channel used to be like beauty stuff and just talking about I don't think it might have been her, but I know she's kind of catapulted into like being on radio shows and meeting celebrities. So I know she's been doing this for years, a whole lot longer than we have.

Wes:

She's got her momentum to get in those things. Every time we get up I get some type of momentum. The 9 to 5 is like I'm going to disrupt your shit for a little bit. I'm like, come on, man.

DeLaw:

It can't be no person that's waiting for that episode from Sex with Lex to come out with me on it. Has it come out yet?

Wes:

I thought it came out Nope.

DeLaw:

You're lying, it never come out. When I talked to her last she was like yeah, you know.

Wes:

You know what? I just saw the clip.

DeLaw:

Yeah, she had the clip where she was, like you ever done, busing. I was like, oh lord, that was the only clip she gave us and when I texted her, she's still doing her thing. I think so. So her co-host was in Atlanta so they had to record around his schedule, but apparently I think he moved back. So I think they're trying to get everything situated and I was like you know, at this point you might as well just release the episodes.

Wes:

Why didn't they do the virtual thing? I don't know yeah that's them yeah yeah, yeah, I get it. She probably like it's probably easier to do the YouTube thing from what she knows or whatever.

DeLaw:

Doing the YouTube. Yeah, I mean like we could definitely record this and put it on YouTube and be some blase blase.

Wes:

But listen, all I can say is I, we, I tried that. And then I was like, well, damn, I gotta get fresher. He's put one of these motherfuckers up and I ain't want to do that. And then it was like we both had the same idea. Today we put on hoods, hoodies, hey, come on now.

DeLaw:

I even wore my, you know, my my. Do you see us now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would have been perfect for this one. You know, do you see us now? And shit man.

Wes:

Listen, I, and it took a while to edit the way I want to edit. I ain't got that much time in a day.

DeLaw:

So the audio shit has been Because you edited based on the audio that you put out. So if you cut something, I got to cut it in the video. I got to cut it in the video.

Wes:

And some stuff. I'll be like you know what? I need to take all that out because I'm implicating myself with something. Because you know what's funny you know it's funny, we both got good jobs.

DeLaw:

I was telling somebody. I said my only saving grace is that our face isn't on on camera, so it's not like, let's say, I was talking about my job. Someone finally saw it and it's like this nigga said what so then I don't even know who that is so that it probably does make it safer for us. But if I knew we were going to be recording and our face was going to be shown, I'm pretty sure the conversation would go a whole lot different.

Wes:

I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that.

DeLaw:

Apparently, some people don't even get much. Well, you know what. They're trying to get really into the podcast social media game. We to get really into the podcast social media game. We kind of doing this at the leisure, if something hits.

Wes:

We like cool. Unfortunately, that's how it's been, because every time I'm like, all right, I got to go rhythm and stuff. I'm migrating stuff over to other stuff, other pages and stuff. I'm just like, okay, you're a supervisor now, and I'm just like, well, fuck. And then I'm like, okay, you're a supervisor now, and I'm just like, well, fuck. And then I'm like on call, on call, so that shit gets tricky.

DeLaw:

But yeah, when we was in Texas. All you see down in Dallas is go Dallas, dallas Cowboys. That's man, fuck them motherfuckers.

Wes:

I said it to myself Okay, even the football season.

DeLaw:

It felt good to see the Skins win in Texas. In Dallas, you know, with that Hail Mary, I was like all right and they were all like damn. But you know what's funny? The Cowboy fans down there and the Cowboy fans out here are completely different. I know. Here's what I don't like about the Cowboy fans down there and the Cowboy fans out here are completely different.

Wes:

I know here's what I don't like about the Cowboy fans up here, and I'm not even a Redskins fan. You can say what you want it's the, it's the. I feel like the ones up here are more bandwagon-y. Those are the ones that the Lakers are their favorite team as well. If you have noticed, every Dallas Cowboy fan up here, the Lakers are their favorite team.

Wes:

I'm like what do you think I'm going to actually respect you right now In this conversation? You choose winners because they win, and I get what I just said. I understand that Some people do choose winners because they win. They understand the greatness, but Dallas ain't been great for a while. You was doing it because of the Super Bowls and stuff like that. How many they had. And the Lakers is only great because of LeBron.

DeLaw:

I mean, if that.

Wes:

I mean, if that he bought them, what two championships? One championship One, one A bubble championship, the Disney World one. I mean, if that he bought them, what two?

DeLaw:

championships. One championship, one, a bubble championship, the Disney World one.

Wes:

Yeah, the Mickey Mouse one.

DeLaw:

I put you this, I put you this, but down in Dallas they were so realistic. It was like, yeah, we're just not really good, like we just need them to run the ball and we it's almost like it's not like the Ravens fans up here, but it was like you know, because in my head Ravens fans are a little bit delusional too, but at least they're realistic with the expectations that they have. Dallas fans in Dallas were very realistic that we're just not that good and the skins are, you know the commander's looking good and you know like we just need to do better up here. When was the last time y'all won anything? I'm like now I can say I'm a Redskins fan that went to Dallas, and have you been to Dallas? No, Well then, guess what? You ain't a Dallas fan, nigga.

Wes:

I could be turned around on you in so many ways, man.

DeLaw:

Maybe, hey, you're a fan of a team you ain't even been to they city.

Wes:

I ain't been to Indianapolis and I don't plan to go.

DeLaw:

I wouldn't tell you to go.

Wes:

Yeah, ain't that the birthplace of Ku Klux? I think so. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know what it is. No, it might be.

DeLaw:

I think it might be. It was heavy up there. I think it started, like you know. Georgia, I think yeah, but they are heavy up there.

Wes:

Well, they were heavy, you don't know what. Yeah, my shit. We were talking before before we uh recorded about um, what was I saying shit that's costing so much, or whatever. I forgot what I was saying. Um, no, I was like yeah, yeah, I was like man, um, because you say you're looking for another job, you always looking. I said you said shit costs too much. And I'm like yeah, I was like I didn't go to college. No, I didn't dream of actually being a outstanding adult, didn't think I would go to college, go to college, make good money for damn near one month. I get sort of good and make a good money for one month, and now everything is expensive again. I really feel like swinging on people because I'm just like yo. This inflation has to come down.

DeLaw:

I'm going to tell you now it ain't coming down.

Wes:

Well, I got to make some more money. Like we were saying, I got to make some more money.

DeLaw:

As much as everybody's like, oh, it's going to come down. You know Trump's going to get it to come.

Wes:

No, no, no, no no. I don't think that's the case.

DeLaw:

I no, no, no, no, no. I don't think that's the case. I don't think he Based on him. Well, Kamala Based on the world. Yeah, and everybody right now is.

Wes:

It's just they're getting, they're getting demolished. I'm like yo if inflation's not going to go down, then wages need to go up. I need this. I just want someone to have a plan for how money can be injected back into the country without fake stimulus shit. Yeah, and and jobs, because I'm just like, god damn, if I got to earn an extra 50, let me earn an extra 50. Let me gradually get up to the extra 50K or something. But God damn man, what the fuck.

DeLaw:

I think I might lose to my mom this week. Huh, I'm playing my mom in fantasy football this week. Oh, I might lose. I ain't gonna owe you. I might my quarterback's on bye week. Dj Metcalf is hurt and I got James Winston as my starting QB right now Great, but they're playing the Chargers, so I might be all right, might be able to shake some.

Wes:

Might be able to shake some Shit, man, you're supposed to do that shit at the job. But ain't nobody want to put no money up? Yeah, I'm like yo, we all know what we do here. We all got an idea of how much we all make. Ain't nobody want to put it into the pot? Fuck it. Yeah. But yeah, man, I I was telling my wife, I was like, uh, I was like yo, did anything come in the mail about where I can vote early?

DeLaw:

yet she was like oh, that's over, I'm like what, yeah, I gotta go, I gotta go with these regular motherfuckers you can fill out a form. You can fill out a form for them to send you your early your come on now a day.

Wes:

I might as well just go up there man.

DeLaw:

My wife sent hers in by mail, so I should have did that shit and I was like man, how come I didn't do that like because I did it. See, here's my thing during covid, I did it because they sent it to everybody. Right, you had to request it. This time, I think, yeah, you had to request it or whatever, and I just like man, whatever. But what I've noticed? What I've noticed is because everybody's absentee ballots or mailing in the early voting lines are worse than the voting lines, like. I remember, my very first election was uh, bush and john kerry, and I went the day of the election and that line was long as shit, okay, long as shit. I don't know what my first one was. That was my first one Curry and Bush. I had just started teaching, I had just turned 18, right when the election started.

Wes:

I ain't gonna lie, my shit might have been Barack.

DeLaw:

Really, oh yeah, you lie, my shit might have been Barack. Really, oh yeah, you are younger, yours might have been the first Barack.

Wes:

Well, it should have been. The Bush was in there for two terms. It should have been the second Bush.

DeLaw:

Because mine was the second Bush. I was 18 before the second Bush won. Oh, you were. Oh, then mine was the second Bush. I was 18 before the second Bush won oh, you were.

DeLaw:

Oh, then mine was definitely Barack, mine was definitely Barack because I remember I want to say because it was Bush. Then I start because right before the Obama election I had just gotten laid off from the feds and then I stood in that line with trying to, you know, go vote for that one, and that was a pretty long line too. I want to say the second Obama one, I early voted and it was just as bad as waiting in line. So for the Hillary Clinton one, I went um the day of and when I say the line wasn't long, the line wasn't bad at all but I also early voted, I think I want to say no, I didn't early vote, no, I did. I early voted again that year but the line wasn't that bad.

DeLaw:

I want to say it was for the Biden one, because we had just moved out here, I voted, I voted. I had to put my ballot in because it was COVID. So I'm going to say all the elections I've done since we've been out here, since maybe the Obama Trump-ish time and I've gone the day of, has been pretty easy just to kind of go in and out, Especially over here. I want to say for every election I've been to them lines be crazy, but when I go up there the day of I walk in, do my thing, walk out and I'm done. So I think it might be a strategy to it, or maybe I think I went. I'm going to see, I'm going to see what happens.

Wes:

All I know is Tuesday's the day, so we'll see all the fuckery that's about to happen.

DeLaw:

Because I don't know if I don't know if for the primaries or just general election, if people actually come out and vote the day of, because I know a lot of people early vote. I know a lot of people send theirs in and maybe I just got lucky that they were primaries of just doing the two-year elections of Westmore and all of them A lot of people. Maybe people just don't come out and vote for that. So I'm going to see what happens.

DeLaw:

I know I'm not going to get up early and go do it because I know if people are going to go do it they're going to do it early in the morning. So I might wait around 2, 3 o'clock. I figured everybody would be going in like 7 o'clock when the polls open and they want to be done by like lunch time. So about 3 o'clock might be that sweet spot to go. The polls open at 7?.

DeLaw:

I don't know nothing about this shit, I mean I do but the polls open. I want to say the polls open at like 6 or 7, and they close at 8. I know that much. They give out 12, 14 hours to poll.

Wes:

I might have to join them one of them.

DeLaw:

I like to hit right after lunch like 2, 3 o'clock that sweet spot because I can see the school that I got to go vote at. I can see it from my house, so I can always look Lucky you man.

Wes:

So here's the thing Mine's what's close too. It's just that I'll be to work at 8.30. So it's kind of like I just got to get out there and just walk and do my thing. That's not a problem. You know what I'm about to hate saying All them fucking I voted stickers. I don't give a fuck. I mean, I give a fuck, but I don't give a fuck that you posted that shit.

DeLaw:

I don't even shit if they voted, because I don't allow them to vote for Trump.

Wes:

That's not what I was about to say To me that's the equivalent of people posting their dinner. I hate that shit. Only because I'm like yo. You ate this ain't even that fancy, it's not what you think it is. Or when women post their little raggedy ass dinner that they made too Paper plate fucking chicken, look dry. Macaroni, that's the crab macaroni and cheese, not like the macaroni you put in the oven yeah, not the one that you yeah when you hit a noise yeah, you hear the bougie.

Wes:

Noises like nah, they ain't make that macaroni, it's just just macaroni. I hate that. That is like a pet peeve of mine the eye bolt stickers, the food pictures and, in a sense, in a sense, in a way, kids' first day of school picture.

DeLaw:

See, I hate when people say you voted Like so, my wife was like, so who you voting for? Why does it matter who I'm voting for?

Wes:

She need to know she's going to stay married to you, Yo who.

DeLaw:

I vote for.

Wes:

Who.

DeLaw:

I vote for Our vows.

Wes:

said till death, do us part she's trying to see if the death is about to happen. So y'all can part. That's what she did.

DeLaw:

I told her. I told her. I said I'm going to put me and you on the ballot and we're going to run. I wrote.

Wes:

who did I write in for? I wrote somebody in last election not last election, but it was for like a county executive or some shit like that and I wrote somebody's name man.

DeLaw:

Random name. Hey, look, look when it says you gotta pick up the five and I only see two names DeLarce yeah, alright, I'm technically. You know the funny part is, once I turned 35 I was technically eligible to run for any position in the country you don't want that man.

Wes:

Hey look, if they said they gonna find some old frat pictures, you'd be like yo. Who the fuck took this picture? And you holding up two beers Irish red and shit. You ever say something to your wife where it was like yo dope, you went overboard with the nastiness and her mouth just opened like yo. What the fuck did you just say to me?

DeLaw:

I don't know, have I ever gone overboard?

Wes:

She said yeah, yeah, I've done that shit too.

DeLaw:

Alright, that's fine.

Wes:

Yeah, man, I've done that too. Man, you're just looking at me like what I'm like, nah man, nah man. You're just looking at me like what I'm like, nah man, nah man. But yo Halloween over with. So Christmas is right around the corner, fuck Thanksgiving. What do you think your wife is getting you for Christmas?

DeLaw:

We'll see. I don't know, with the way everything's been going, I don't know. We, we gotta survive till then. That's the biggest thing. Oh my, we gotta survive till then. Yeah, I, I guess going to marriage counseling has helped us somewhat.

Wes:

So it should help a lot, man it's. It's helping somewhat get y'all viewpoints across, because y'all seem to be missing each other with that that's, that's therapy.

DeLaw:

Counseling is a little different oh so so therapy is where you vent your.

DeLaw:

You vent your stuff and they tell you all that stuff. Counseling Counseling is giving you your guidebook of how to navigate your marriage. It's a tad bit different. It's still the same thing, but it's not when people go to therapy. It's to let out, let this out, let this out, blah whatever. What's really bothering you about your spouse. If you want to be with your spouse, that's therapy. But they don't necessarily give you. They give you a thing to try that could work, but they don't give you the foundation you need to make it work with counseling, no matter how you look at it, counseling gives you your base and foundation of where you need to be.

DeLaw:

So let's say I want to go to therapy for drinking. They're going to ask me why am I drinking? Why am I doing? They're going to ask me all these questions, trying to underline why I'm doing it, but it doesn't give me a reason to stop. It's just identifying an issue. Right With counseling. You go in there and say, well, what can we do to get you to stop? So this is here's some things we could use. They're going to give you a solution while still allowing you to figure out why are you drinking? So it's, they're the same but different. I got you.

DeLaw:

So when we, when we decided to go to Mary's counseling, she wanted to go to therapy, cause she you know, she wanted to air my ass out, all the things I'm, oh gosh man, I don't think it would work, cause one person's perspective and then the other person's perspective now is like, well, that's not true, that's not how I see it. Well, no, that's not how you see it, because you're telling it from your perspective, you're not telling it from my perspective. So I only can tell you from my perspective, like the, I think we were talking about the whole thing with the bathroom. She's like well, you always come running into the bathroom and taking it from. I'm like, well, I got to be work on time. You have a flexible schedule and you leave early every time you go to work. So, or, that doesn't change the fact that you come and just take the bathroom.

DeLaw:

I said so. So in my head, I'm like well, I've only been getting in the bathroom before her since I started at my new position, and that was in July. Yeah, okay, in July, I started getting in the bathroom at six, 45. Before that, I got in the bathroom at seven, 15, seven, 30. Okay, you're complaining about not getting to work on time and, like you, never get in the bathroom first. And bazi bazi, what about when I was getting?

Wes:

hold on, hold on. Y'all problems be crazy. So why can't? Why can't one of you guys just get in there before that?

DeLaw:

you normally get in there for that was a thing when I worked for MDH or DHS, for that you normally get in there for. Well, that was a thing when I worked for MDH or DHS. She would be done her exercise at 6.30. It will go upstairs to start getting ready to go to work, getting a shower. Anything else I had that was in my work at 6.30. I went walking, walking to about 7.15, 7.20 at the latest I'll come in. She's been done since 6.30. This is after she washed dishes, made her lunch, exercised. She's up since 6.30. She still ain't gotten in the shower in 7.15.

DeLaw:

What you been doing for 45 minutes, what you been doing for 45 minutes. So for 45 minutes, what have you been doing for 45 minutes? So now I got to be working at 8 o'clock. I got to be working early. I get done my workout at. Actually we work on maybe going walking together. So at 6.45, when we get back in the house I immediately brush my teeth. Get in the shower, boom, boom, boom. I'm done by 7.10. All of 30 minutes, that's including my teeth. Get in the shower, boom, boom, boom. I'm done by 710. All of 30 minutes, that's including my teeth getting washed.

DeLaw:

Boom, I'm done. You're like well, I got to be working at 8 o'clock too, okay, but even when you get in there before me, you still leave at 830. Okay, I mean, I'm just saying from my perspective, like I said, from your perspective, yeah, maybe I do come in and I just jack the bathroom from you, but in my perspective I don't do that. If you're sitting there, not using the bathroom, what am I waiting for you for? If you're currently in there and there's been times where she's been currently in there and she'll be in there I remember one time she was in there until 745. I had gotten in the house 715. Come upstairs. I hear her turn the water on. You just get in. Yeah, well, I had to do this, this and this. Hey, you've been upstairs since 620. What did you do this last hour On your phone Picking out clothes, like, come on, I'm like.

DeLaw:

And I told her. I remember I told her. I said you can't keep saying I'm always on my phone. When you're always on your phone, you're pretty much saying I'm always on my phone because you're always on my phone. If I'm on my phone, I'm playing games on my phone. It's your life. It's your life.

Wes:

You're both wasting time. That's the nature of it.

DeLaw:

I don't waste time in the morning because I know I don't have time to waste. I've been in positions where there's no such thing as coming in late. I'm late to my jobs Like I was in the stock market almost 12 years. I had to be there by 7 am on the dot, no later, only earlier. When I worked for Emergency Ops they gave me five-minute grace period. I had to be there at 8.30. 8.35 was the latest I could show on my floor and that was when I went to work after her, so she had the bathroom before me. Now I got to be at work at 8 o'clock because now I'm inventory, so I got to be there on time.

Wes:

But what it sounds like what you're saying to me is she's not willing to change her.

DeLaw:

She don't utilize her time properly. She got to be on social media. She got to look at her memes. She got to be on social media. She got to look at her memes. She got to do this In the morning time. The most I look at my phone is to turn my damn alarm off. When I finally look at my phone to do anything play games, social media I'm sitting at my desk at 8 o'clock in the morning. I think when it comes to moving with a purpose in the morning, she doesn't do everything with a purpose. If I get up at 6.15, 6.45, 5.15, 5.45, and I know I have a time crunch everything I do is with a purpose. Get up, I work, I work out, I do my walk. I go straight upstairs, wash my hands, brush my teeth, wash myself, put my lotion on, put my clothes on, walk out the door. At no point do you see me on my phone sitting there, yo, mine be the same way.

Wes:

But I do be on mine, but I'm on mine because I got the time to spare for five minutes and then I'm going to hop in the car. So I get that, yeah.

DeLaw:

I don't have time to spare. I got in and I try to be conscious of, and by the time I'm in the shower nowadays 6.45, I'm out by 7.10. That's brushing my teeth, everything else done with the bathroom, that's 30 minutes tops, 30 minutes tops, and most of that time is waiting for the water to warm up. So you know what I'm saying. It ain't necessarily like oh, I'm up there doing something crazy, so she might get you a watch for Christmas.

Wes:

is what you sign.

DeLaw:

I already got a watch. What you need to give me is a new job that I could tell you Can't give you that. I'm just saying just from my perspective. I told her just from my perspective. You're like, you're always this. I'm like saying just from my perspective yeah, yeah, yeah, I told her just from my perspective. You're like, oh, you're always this. You're always I'm like well, if you're on your phone, sitting on a bed naked and all you did was brush your teeth and you've been upstairs for 45 minutes, what the hell were you doing?

Wes:

Yeah, that would piss, me off.

DeLaw:

If I come in the house and I'm fully dressed and I'm about all right, I'm taking off my stuff and start. Oh, you're about to take the bathroom. You've been up here 45 minutes. The fuck are you doing? Get in the shower. Oh well, here you go. Go ahead and take it, okay, because you ain't going to lose your job for being late.

Wes:

I will.

DeLaw:

So, yeah, no, I have to make a. If she works somewhere where it was like that, we would really have to work it out. Look, you have to be out of the bathroom at this time Period. No questions asked. Or maybe you should wake up early. We got to be at work at the same time and you still go to work 30 minutes to an hour after an hour late and still leave on time. It's your life, come on.

Wes:

You think it'll get? Do you think how would I phrase this? Do you think for Christmas you'll get the equivalent of getting a smoothie, like this one guy got for his birthday?

DeLaw:

from his girlfriend. My wife asks me what I want for Christmas. I tell her don't give me shit and she's like well, no, I said you don't gotta give me shit. Nah, I need something for the pain and suffering that my mom be putting me through throughout the year and she's like well, no, I got.

Wes:

I said you don't gotta give me shit, nah, nah, I need something for the pain and suffering that the mom be putting me through throughout the year. I am never gonna say you crazy, you crazy.

DeLaw:

All the no all the arguments.

Wes:

You knew you won. But you didn't win because you knew it was gonna escalate somewhere else, because they wanted to act like a child. Hell, no, don't ever say that again, man. But you didn't win because you knew it was going to escalate somewhere else, because they wanted to act like a child. Hell, no, no, don't ever say that again, man.

DeLaw:

This is what I tell her. I tell her she's like well, how come you don't want to? I said, because if there's something that I want to get, I'm going to go get it. Yeah, I get that. And so and I told her, I said the last time I, I actually legitimately asked you for something, you got the wrong thing. So I said, you know, because she asked me for for one Christmas, she asked me for a blanket for her for Christmas. So I looked at the blanket, made sure it was full size, that it covered up a human body okay, that it covered up a human body. Got it because I knew if it came back and it didn't do that she'd be real pissed off. Human body Okay, that it covered up a human body. Got it because I knew if it came back and it didn't do that she'd be real pissed off. I said well, babe, I want to play with my name on it, so that way I won't keep. Is your name wrong? No, it was too fucking small, it's too. Look this.

Wes:

Look, I thought that's the blanket. That's the blanket, that's the blanket.

DeLaw:

That's a towel, that's a towel and she was like, oh, I didn't know what the size of I was. Like, what the hell am I going to do? She's like how come you don't use your blanket? What the hell is it going to come with it's a towel this is like literally something you give to your mom when she says her legs are cold.

Wes:

That's the size of the blanket you get right after you start beating the joint. You finish your shit and it's cold and I was a little bit. You need to run to the bathroom, so you just tie the joint around your waist and walk to the bathroom. That's a towel.

DeLaw:

So and then she's like well, you know what I said? Well, and I told her before I even asked her for that blanket.

Wes:

I said Is it the right size?

DeLaw:

No, no, I said, the reason I don't ask anybody for anything is because they always either mess it up or they don't get it, or it's some random shit. Listen, I think that's the story to most men's life.

Wes:

That's the story to my life too. It's just more or less like I don't go into it with any expectations. I say, yo, get me whatever you think I would like. Now there's been times that I have been surprised, but I don't never go into it saying, yo, this is what you should get. No, that's not true too, because if I say yo, go get me 2K, whatever she know which one to get, sometimes she'd be like, all right, you said which one and you know be at the store or whatever. Have you or this, this and that, but no, you will always get disappointed. As a man, you always get disappointed.

DeLaw:

I was just like I said you gotta be kidding me right now. There's no way in hell that I would have came in and said here's your blanket and you look at that. It would have been a whole thing like wow, you couldn't even get this shit right.

Wes:

It would have been a whole argument it would have been like you just don't love me, because if you love me you would make sure, but we can't pull that. This has been like well, you know my, you would make sure, but we can't pull that.

DeLaw:

This has been like, because she's like well, you know my son, he didn't, he made it his work, Okay.

Wes:

Yeah, I'm not him.

DeLaw:

I'm like you wouldn't have made this work. You'd have felt some type of way about it, but you might have found a use for it because you might be like well, my legs might be the only thing that's cold, so let me put it over my legs. It might work for you. But no, I asked for what I asked for. You got it wrong, so now you got to deal with what I got to deal with when I get shit wrong.

Wes:

I don't want to deal with that. Nope, listen to this story. This guy got a smoothie on his birthday. Listen to the story. This guy got a smoothie on his birthday. So is that cool for sex? I wish it was for his sake. He's a 42 year old male. He was simply taken out for a smoothie by his 35 year old banker girlfriend for his birthday well, she don't make a lot of money anyway a banker a bank teller A banker. A bank teller or a banker Banker I didn't say teller.

DeLaw:

Okay, If she's a banker she makes about 80.

Wes:

And I think this might be in the UK. No, it's not in the UK. A part of me thinks it's actually here, but listen to the story no gifts, so not in the UK. A part of me thinks it's actually here, but listen to the story no gifts, so we have separate residences. She makes considerably more money, plus extra financial help for taking care of her niece. This Invisalign is fucking with my reading. Right now. It's a visit line. It's fucking with my uh reading right now.

Wes:

My family took us both out to dinner the night of sid birthday, which was a complete disaster of a restaurant experience, so we then went out again for brunch the next day. I paid for her. She expresses loving to receive gifts. I give her gifts all the time, including holidays and her birthday, at which times I Let me just move this shit right here, so I ain't looking up reading At which times I really made a big effort to make her feel happy and special, but she can expect a little thoughtful gift nearly every time I visit For her birthday. At her request, I made an elaborate meal and cake from scratch, plus provided alcoholic beverages. I am an experienced cook and make fine dining level meals, as I have worked at some of the nice, as I have worked at some very nice restaurants. Today, I feel I was feeling bothered by the imbalance and told her that if I were to have her, if I were to have joined the Tropical Smoothie Cafe Club, I've gotten two smoothies from there for my birthday. And she just happily agreed what? Hold on, let me read that shit again. I don't even understand that Today I was feeling bothered, bothered by the imbalance, and told her that if I were to have joined the tropical smoothie cafe club, I've gotten two smoothies from there for my birthday. Oh, I see what you're saying. I guess that's some type of situation that they do.

Wes:

Looking back at this, looking back this this has been the pace of this has been the pace for providing for the meals throughout our time together. I make her and her niece a dinner three or more times a week and provide 90% of the beverages, mainly wines, mixed alcohol beverages, juices and sodas. Every other week, she buys us a burger and fries. This has been an ongoing frustration for me. I've been I've been expressive about it, often resulting in her providing an extra takeout meal. I don't want no extra takeout. Lately I'm providing more than those takeout meals, as I, as I see how much she enjoys that, but the imbalance remains five to one. Honestly, I'm considering this as being largely the energetic exchange. What is he saying? Honestly, I'm considering this as being largely the energetic exchange rate and thinking about ending things. She's very verbally affectionate and talks about her future a lot. She tells me that I'm the best boyfriend she's ever had, of course, but still I still feel shorted by the amount of energy she puts in. Is she cheating on him?

DeLaw:

Huh Is she cheating on him.

Wes:

I don't know Versus the amount of marital energy I'm putting in. Second, she's from the inner city, which she's used to people close to her taking advantage of her. I grew up in a beautiful quaint university town where most people I know still keep their doors unlocked.

DeLaw:

I wanted this nigga to know that nobody cared about his whole.

Wes:

The fact that he said Tropical Smoothie Cafe. I know we got a bunch of them in the area. That doesn't make any sense but um, does that sound on point for uh situations relationships? The guy does most of the uh, most of the buying and spending shit I remember one chick for my birthday.

DeLaw:

She said she ain't had no money, but she wanted to go to Chili's. I said so wait, am I paying for it? Well, yeah, because you got the money. I said so what am I getting? I mean, we can have sex afterwards. So wait, I'm taking you out to fuck you.

Wes:

It's a regular day.

DeLaw:

It's a regular. That's a regular fucking day.

Wes:

Right, regular fucking day right, come on right.

DeLaw:

So do you? You think he should? Uh, you think he's okay for one more? Uh, yeah, you took me to a fucking smoothie. Like, what the hell am I gonna do with this? Like, was I like licking the smoothie off of her? Did she like slurp it up with her pussy or something?

Wes:

like yo. Sometimes I think that, uh, when it comes to stuff like that, I think women have such a low bar for men that they feel like once again, all they have to do is not even the bare minimum, just some shit that we wouldn't even want for ourselves. And it's just kind of like and you think that's whatever, that's supposed to be your grand jester, but when it comes to us, we, we have to over, exceed and this, this and that, and I have to be romantic. And it gets to the point where it's like do you like the gesture more than the man? Because a lot of women like the gesture more than the man Like, oh he, this was done for me, not like he did this for me.

DeLaw:

I don't know. I think it's a you kind of get what I'm saying, I get what you're saying, but I think it's more of Think about it from this aspect. When you're growing up, mom and dad, what do you get for dad on Father's Day? Tie socks, random, you know, regular random stuff, random stuff, right, like not nothing that he might really want, but because he's dead, he's expected to accept it, because he's supposed to be able to go without and be able to sacrifice for his family, blah, blah.

DeLaw:

Women are natural creatures of wanting gifts. So, you know, when it comes to you know, and counseling, the guy was like do you guys know what each other's love language are? Right? So, obviously, guys, first one is sex. So where do you think women go to all the time for gifts? Sex, well, you know, it's father's day, I'll fuck him. Oh, it's father's day, his birthday, christmas I'll suck his dick. You know I'm saying they, they go with that, not understand that some guys are like well, the reason I don't ask for anything is because you can't provide anything else for me, because the only thing you ever provide for me is is sex. And then when I ask you for something else, it's half done, half ass. I gotta accept it as it is and not say shit about it. So the only thing you're going to go full out for because you get equal enjoyment of it is sex that's not true.

Wes:

They don't go. Most women don't go, fall out, or they give you the same thing that they would on Sunday.

DeLaw:

Compared to the gift that you'll get Nine times out of ten. You ain't going to be disappointed with sex, but let's say you wanted a bottle of this.

Wes:

I almost I guarantee you there are some men that have been disappointed with sex on Valentine's Day on. Valentine's Day. I do too on Valentine's Day, on Christmas or birthdays and on anniversaries.

DeLaw:

I know those guys what I'm saying is in women's head and how guys are built. Women aren't built to give, aren't built to give, aren't built to do what we do. We're built differently than them and that's why we give up more to be with them than they do us. You know what I'm saying.

Wes:

Nah, let them tell it, they give up their whole soul please you ain't getting nothing for Christmas. You ain't getting nothing for Christmas. You not getting shit for.

DeLaw:

Christmas. You know, look, I look at it as well and in all honesty, I do love my wife. I know me and her. We've gone through our ups and downs but a lot of times we've come to terms that that's what marriage is You're going to for rich or for poor? You might be going through that three or four times. Good and bad, sickness and health you're going to go through that Damn near all the time.

DeLaw:

So getting a divorce makes no sense just because you go through it once Like if marriage was a very easy thing. Why? Why? Why everybody ain't married?

Wes:

you know I mean no, I think the thing is they yeah, that's yeah, yeah, facts um, I think a lot of people go into it like the moment they are happy, they want to stay unhappy. So it's more like a quick fix, like instant gratification. So it's like I'm not happy right now, so everything must be in shambles, rather than just like why aren't you happy, or could you actually be happy? Uh, you know what I mean. Like what? What are the other logical situations?

DeLaw:

Women's, women's idea or happiness is so fucked up it's crazy.

Wes:

What is your idea of the idea?

DeLaw:

My idea of them being happy is that everything is this perfect. Your husband comes home, he's like hi, honey, how are you? Don't worry, I don't need nothing else but you to occupy my time. Do you need me to rub your feet and start this heart bath for you? Don't worry, I have dinner for you and I went ahead and ruffled up something. And don't worry, I will fuck you and you ain't got to do jack shit and go to sleep and be happy. That's how I think they think this shit's supposed to be.

Wes:

Mine is a little bit more. That's just the short version I can go. Mine is even shorter than yours. That's just the short version I can go on. Mine's even shorter than yours. They want to be, they want you to be their personal genie, where you just make shit happen and you are the source of their happiness. And they want to be entertained. And that's why, when I be talking to my homies, I'm like'm like yo, it just sounds like from, because they out there I ain't out there, you know, jersey in the rafters and shit. I'm like it just sounds like from what you're saying.

Wes:

The women that you're dealing with they more impressed with the, the idea of you doing stuff, rather than the nigga that's doing the stuff. You know what I mean. It's like yo, I'm the I'm, I'm the reason this is happening, not like oh, you got to have this done for you and he was the source of it. So it's kind of like he's, he's running into a woman that off and on, flip-flopping in between that, and then, when he checked them, it's more or less like they don't know what's going on. Or you this, this and this, and then they my one particular friend call them two days later like, so you just gonna say forget about me. And it's like yo, stop.

Wes:

And I also said stop dicking them down like that too, because that's making them a little bit weird too. Because it's kind of like yo, like he has a girl that comes into a came in some situation like this is how things gonna be. Like she was the nigga, he treated her like he was the nigga, and then she don't know how to act. It's just kind of like no, I'm like, I'm that dude, like you ain't about to come over here with your, your modern women's shit and this, this and this is like yo, like fall in the fall in the fall in line, like yo, it's gonna be what it's gonna be. Yeah, she, this lady, when he tell me this lady don't know how to act at, when I say act, I mean not like act like she's like not uh, respectful and stuff like that she don't know if she coming or going when it comes down, because she, like she ain't never really been with a dude. That's like nah, like putting her in her place each and every step of the way. It's like it's not gonna happen.

DeLaw:

Yeah no, but I know what you're talking about. I mean because in my head when I see a lot of this, especially chicks that I date, I remember they do this. Oh well, you know, I just don't see the husband qualities in you and I'm not going to be doing wife qualities, if you know.

Wes:

I'm like wait a minute. You're saying stuff that you heard from someone else.

DeLaw:

There's no way you want me to show you husband qualities, but you ain't even going to show a wife quality. What? Just because you suck my dick and fuck me, that's the only wife quality you got.

Wes:

Here's the catch-22. I decide what my wife qualities or what my qualities are going to be in my wife. If I don't see those in you, it don't matter what you think you're doing, it gonna be in my way. If I don't see those in you, it don't matter what you think you doing, it ain't it? So in my head I'm like yo and I had the same thing happen to me like around when I was like 22 and shit like what, we need to be married this, this and this. And I'm so sure I'm like yo, I'm not ready for marriage, can't even really, uh, support you or whatever, whatever, whatever, it's not gonna happen. Motherfucker tried to pressure me into marriage. I was like it's not going to happen. Motherfucker tried to pressure me into marriage. I was like it's not happening.

DeLaw:

Oh, I had the same thing Right when I was about to transfer to UMBC. I just got my accepting letter and we broke. I want to say we broke up in October. Like in October, I had just got my foot in the fist and she calls me. She's like October, I had just got my foot in the fist and she calls me. She's like well, you know. So what's up? I'm like, well, nothing, you know at this point. We've been together five, six years, you know, from high school, like 16 years old. I'm like what's up? Well, you know, like my mom said that you know you, you know you're stringing me along and like if you can't marry me within two years, then you know obviously we need to be breaking up. I'm like what? Where the fuck is this coming from? We've been together since high, you know, since 16. I'm in college. I said I ain't got no way to take you. I don't have no, no, no house for you.

Wes:

I ain't got none of that shit when you, when you young, when you young and dumb, like that those things are supposed to happen. Like you know, if you're a man, you're a girl saying some shit like that and y'all break it up, or you're thinking she the one and she not the one, or you know, you find out she was sucking somebody else's dick. Like those things are supposed to happen, because that shit happens.

DeLaw:

But that comes from her not having no good friends in her corner and listen to her mom's story of how she was with this one guy. But her mom married though right, and that's the point Like her mom, when she was in Jersey, was with this one guy. I think he's a senator, he was like a congressman, a senator in New Jersey at the time that this all happened. But your mom was in this relationship with this guy for 20 years or whatever, and she knew the guy was cheating on her. She knew that he could see the girl in his room, but she stayed with him and then came to Maryland, met her husband. They got married. Whatever.

DeLaw:

You're sitting here listening to your mom's story, you're internalizing your mom's story, thinking that that's what's happening to you, when in actuality that ain't what's happening to you. We've been together since high school. I'm in college, you're in trade school. It's not like she had her own place that she was living in. She was living at her mom's house. It wasn't like I had my own place I was living in. I was living at my parents' house. So if she had lived in her own place and I remember telling one of my homies about this years ago I said if either one of us was living in our own place and we had that conversation, she had a point. Nah, she don't she conversation. She had a point no she don't.

Wes:

She don't have.

DeLaw:

Well, I'm not, no, hear me out for it. Okay, here we go. She would have a point because now I can move in, now we can put our money and resources together and and and build this thing. But neither one of us had even stepped out of our parents house to even venture out on our own to do it, to pay for something on our own. So if she was like, well, let's say I was staying at her house all the time, she's like well, you're going to marry me or not? We've been together six years. Okay, you got a point. I, I get what you're saying, because now it looks like I'm freeloading off you, but I ain't even doing that because neither one of us are on our own. So you have no real foundation to say, well, you're just stringing me along. You lived in your own place and I was just coming over there fucking you and keeping it rolling. Oh, yeah, I'm stringing you along then. But come on like, yeah, yeah, once it was over.

DeLaw:

It was over, and I remember we had a conversation before that breakup. She's like, if we ever break up again, like what I said, we ever break up again, that's it. I'm not coming back. We've broken up two times. The third time I'm done because you break up with me over bullshit every time, every time. One time was because I don't want to have a boyfriend going into my senior year, but two weeks later you're with your ex-boyfriend who lives next door. Okay, next time you break up with me. Well, I heard this sermon that said that blase, blase, blase. So I'm breaking up with you. What? And I asked one of the ladies up too, like that's not what the guy meant, like that's not what the guy meant, like that's not how it should have been taken. So she breaks up with you because of what? Okay then, and then we break up again.

Wes:

That's it, that's it that sounds like somebody that's perpetually looking to be. I ain't gonna to say looking, I'm going to say she probably just wasn't happy.

DeLaw:

Look, I put it this way, me and her shouldn't even meet in six years. And look, I'm not going to say I was a perfect saint in that relationship. But when it came down to that relationship, even though it was cool and all, for the amount of times she'd cheat on me, I'm like. And then when I didn't come back the third time, well, you know, you treated me bad, like my father treated my mom bad and bothered Bitch. You cheated with the same nigga every time. Bitch, I'm done for keep taking your ass back.

Wes:

She tried to play victim.

DeLaw:

She tried to play the victim in a relationship that you done caused it to break up. You broke the woods every time so that you and what I gathered from it and I never said it to her, but in my head I said it sounds to me every said it to her, but in my head I said it sounds to me every time we broke up so that you could go back to him and be free to kind of fuck around with him and then realizing that nigga ain't shit. Like why did I do that? Like I need to go back to this. You know what I'm saying.

Wes:

Yeah, Listen, I told my homie one time something that I heard from one of my homegirls she said she was saying to the group was like I need to hurry up and find a boyfriend because when I get bored I just fuck around with my baby father and I don't want to continue to do that. And in my head I'm like this is a thing like women get bored and then they just be like I'm a fuck with him. A thing like women get bored and then they just be like I'm a fuck with him. And that's what I'm saying. Like yo, women show their immaturity in so many ways. It's a lot different from guys because you know, we'll show our immaturity in like the things we buy or like putting ourselves in harm's way for no fucking reason, like stupid shit, like that they be bored. Bored made you get into a relationship.

DeLaw:

I was telling my boy. I was like, while we were chopping it up the other day, I was like man with women. Sometimes I don't understand their process. It's like everything is like I can give you a simplified answer. What's like everything is like I can give you a simplified answer.

Wes:

What's going to make me happy? It's like the happiness thought comes first and then everything else comes second. If it comes second, If it comes second. Long story short. Dude deserved more than a fucking smoothie for his birthday.

DeLaw:

Yes, he did, he definitely did. He definitely deserved more than a fucking smoothie. That bitch Whoa.

Wes:

He did, he definitely did he definitely deserved more than a fucking smoothie. That bitch Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Jeez man.

DeLaw:

Hey look man, my mic is loose this week. What?

Wes:

Hey, listen, you only continue to get what you tolerate. So he brought it to our attention. We'll see what happens with homie. Maybe we won't, but I would assume that that's another thing too.

Wes:

It's one of those things where it's like, you know, sometimes in relationships and shit, women always like to, they like to acknowledge the, uh, the double standard when it comes to them being the victim, right, but when they never, you know, they never recognize the double standard when it's to their uh, to their benefit, right, and I believe most men, they just kind of like oh, that's the game, I gotta play it. Like, there's no way around it. I'm the player in the game, I didn't make the game, I can't destroy the game, right, but that's the game. So it's just kind of like that's how I go about shit.

Wes:

It's more or less like yo, we all know like if you're like, theoretically you work in and your woman working because she wanted to go to college, she still expects you to pay for stuff. That's the game. We know that you can kind of get away with the, the her paying for stuff. If it's not 50, 50 it got to be 60, 40 or 70, 30, we know that's the game. We also know there's a lot of women out there that yo, I don't want to pay for nothing, but I'm coming to you with a lot of debt. Maybe you can make that work.

DeLaw:

That's the game like coming to you with only pussy that's the game.

Wes:

So it's kind of like come on now like men know this, you gotta be better yeah we gotta be better as men my homie was telling me.

Wes:

He was like like we got to be better as men and we also have to not allow them to go forward to other men once they leave us and we check them. So we got to check them so that they know that yo, if I get checked enough, like OK, I'm out of order, I'm out of pocket. How the fuck do I expect to come to this man with 100K in debt and be like pussies here, marry me Like I ain't make that debt with you, like you wouldn't even put that on your, you wouldn't even tell your son to do that. If you was a mother Like yo, if she comes to you with $100K in debt, your duty as a man is to pay that.

DeLaw:

I hope no woman will ever tell their son to do that Listen.

Wes:

I asked that question to one of my uh group uh, like group friends and shit like that and you know what one woman said to get out of this question not answering it, the right like not answer it at all. She says I wouldn't mind if my son does that, if he, if the woman is like me, I'm like what do you mean? Like you, a gold digging bitch? And she didn't understand what she was saying and I'm like no, no, no, you and I'm trying to help her, but the whole table looking at her, kind of crazy. I'm like it don't matter what type of woman you are. Do you think that's fair for your son to do that? I wouldn't mind it if she's like me. I'm like no. So basically you saying like you need that, you need that type of assistance. I'm just like come, come on, man. My whole thing is if you want to be a modern woman, those are the modern prices. You don't want to pay 50%, you don't want to go half and half, so you'll continue to pay for everything on your own because you want to be a modern woman. If you was a traditional woman, you stand at your folks' house until you get married off. You ain't coming to him with no debt and it's just a transition. Like you said earlier, like yo, he, my, whoever my daughter's married, the man has to be able to take her from here to here and she not coming back and this, this and that. That's how I was traditionally done.

Wes:

And I was talking to my homie. He got like he got three daughters. He was like I would love for my daughters to stay with me until they get married. Like that's the type of shit that he wants. He'll make sure that everything is straight because he's dealt with women, including his wife, that just fucking spend up money, come to them, come with them, with debt, argumentative and shit like that. He was like no, I don't want that for my daughters. I don't want them to be like yo. I don't want their future husband to be like damn, this nigga ain't teach her shit. And I'm like I kind of agree with you, like if I had daughters, I'm like yo, hopefully they can stay with me until they get married.

DeLaw:

How could you not agree? Because it's I mean, it's cut and dry. It's like women are expecting these expectations of men and they're not even providing the bare minimum.

Wes:

Here's the thing. Granted, I'm not saying like back traditionally, all women, the traditional women back then, our grandparents or our great-grandparents, all of them knew how to do everything. Some of them couldn't sew worth a damn, some could not cook worth a damn, some couldn't. Some did some things better than others. Right, all I'm saying is, if that, if that's the, if that's the type of woman you want to be, you have to be that woman all the way through. If that's the type of man you want to be, you got to be that woman all the way through. If that's the type of man you want to be, you got to be that man all the way through. I don't want to be a traditional man. I would like to be a modern man, and a modern man that wants a modern woman. And when I say that I mean you are, you understand, let's just say our community. You understand that no one's coming from a place of privilege. You understand that, yo, you won't have to work and you understand we're going to make this work together. Now, me, being the man that I am, I'm like yo, it's not going to be 50 50, but you're going to pay something. So it might be a 70 30, and if you can't get with 70 30, then yo, I'm the man. You don't have to stay with me, you don't have to be with me, it's not. It only you know what I mean. Like yo, that's just what it is.

Wes:

Now, as a modern man, I can't go to a traditional woman and say yo, go get a job, I'm gonna work your ass to death. She'll be like nah, I'm traditional, like I'm ready to move into a situation. I ain't coming to you with no debt. I ain't coming to you with no extra whatever, whatever, whatever. I'm coming to you literally as a dependent and if you can pay my phone bill, get my hair done, get me a little car and give me a little stipend for you know the month, whatever, I'm straight and it's kind of like yeah, I could do like most men could do that. Like, if it's going to cost like a thousand dollars to maintain you a month, what do we? You know I mean, what are we really doing? What am I really missing out on? The only thing that gets a little crazy is if you get sick or something happens to the breadwinner. She don't have no damn skills. That's why modern women was invented. You know what I mean, that's what it is.

DeLaw:

I can't even say. That's why it was invented.

Wes:

No, I know why it was invented it was for money.

DeLaw:

Honestly, I wouldn't even say it was for money. I'm telling you it was?

Wes:

I'm telling you it was because of the credit cards. The credit card companies wanted credit cards. Out there, women spent a lot of fucking money, they're the biggest consumers and shit like that. I might be mixing this up with something else. So long story short independence.

Wes:

I think that, if I'm not mistaken, lobbyists and credit card companies pushed the women empowerment right for that particular reason for them to be able to get credit cards because you couldn't get a credit card. Companies push the women empowerment right for that particular reason for them to be able to get credit cards because you couldn't get a credit card, you couldn't get a credit card by yourself as a woman, you couldn't vote by yourself as a woman, and this, this, and that Most women didn't even want that fucking privilege. They loved their man doing everything because they stayed at home, they looked after the kids, and you have to go do whatever, whatever, whatever. And even when women blamed that aspect of it, like we had to get out there or this, this, and that y'all didn't have to be modern women at that point, you still could have been traditional.

Wes:

Y'all just had the option. Men don't have the option. There's no. Like yo, I'm going to just stay at home and you know, fuck around, play some Call of Duty, and you go out there and do that shit. Y'all got the option of both. I don't understand how they don't see the ballers in their court and they still playing the game the wrong way. You asking for too much is what I'm trying to say. Most of y'all asking for too much.

DeLaw:

Most of y'all asking for In my head. They ask them for too much and they're playing the game wrong, because a lot of them always oh, I'm playing the game like y'all guys, do no you're not.

Wes:

You can't play the game. You're not a guy, right. So you can't play the game like we play.

DeLaw:

There's no way you're playing the game like I would play, because if you're playing the game like I would play, we wouldn't have no issues. Yeah.

Wes:

Yeah, don't settle for that smoothie.

DeLaw:

I wouldn't settle for that.

Wes:

Yeah, don't. I think I would have broke up with her on the spot. You know, what I'm saying. I might have On my birthday.

DeLaw:

You want to just buy me a smoothie.

Wes:

I get it If I go to Five dollars. Dog.

DeLaw:

Five dollars. If I go to Smoothie King all the time you're like I'm going to pay for your smoothie and whatever. Like, whatever your lunch was, I get it, I get it, I get it. But if that's not somewhere I go, you just want to go there, so you pay, like now that's like. That's like if my wife came down and said, oh, I'm going to take you to meet the mushroom and you know I don't eat vegan shit. You want to go there, not me. But let's say you can't, you come to my job and you're like I'm going to take you to this food truck over here to Mike's chef. All right, cool, I want to get Mike's chef today. Anyway, so thank you for paying for my lunch. Like it's a little, it just depends. It just depends Like if Tropical Smoothie is somewhere that he goes all the time and she wanted to pay for his regular smoothie that he gets, I don't see nothing wrong with it if she provides more. She didn't, I mean, I know she didn't, but if she provided more, then I could understand it.

Wes:

Nah, yeah, that needs to be a whole Yo, we just get shortchanged a lot when it comes to this shit. That's what it is. Yeah, Everybody got to do better man. Everybody got to do better. Everybody got to do better. Everybody got to do better man. Everybody got to do better. Everybody got to do better. Thank everybody for tuning in. We'll see you next time.