According To Wes

I Swallowed It 🎧

• Wes/DeLaw • Season 9 • Episode 2

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How big does your circle of friends need to be? The dynamics of friendships and relationships provides never-ending stories of loyalty, trust, and the evolving nature of personal values. 

Wes:

The visit line like tuned up and shit and they got to put these little brackets and stuff on your teeth. Well, you know, you familiar with it.

DeLaw:

Your wife had a visit line right, yeah, she got a visit line.

Wes:

So, long story short, they was like oh, you're missing one of the things. You're going to have to put another one on one of your teeth, the back tooth, or whatever. I'm like all right, cool, cool, cool, cool. So, like man, it's like the fourth one that I didn't bit off or whatever, or something happened and I didn't know what happened. So I'm like look, and it's the assistant right there in the orthodontist right there. I said, obviously I've been swallowing these, is this safe? And they bust out laughing. I'm like no, I'm serious. I don't know where it went Because I didn't see it come out of my food. About food, I must have swallowed it all. Is this saying? He tells me, he tells me. Well, I would think that you know some of the chemicals and stuff that we work with for safety use in the mouth. So I think you should be good that you swallowed it up tonight. I'm like that's not reassuring everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the according to west podcast. As always, we got d law here you have.

Wes:

D-Law, the coach, coach D-Law full of emotions, about to go coach a game.

DeLaw:

We don't know what type of advice he's going to give look, you know what advice I'm going to give keep your hands up definitely keep your hands up.

Wes:

We need the game to exhibit more defense, Professionally, non-professionally, amateur. We need more defense. That's what's going to keep me watching.

DeLaw:

Yeah, no, we definitely need more defense. And it was funny like watching the. Uh, the kids like kind of play around whatever they play like just like on tv. Yeah, yeah, one kid he gave me like in practice last week and I'm like he fell on the floor. I'm like why the fuck he fall on the floor? For he gave like a euro step to the rim after he. He put it up, he falls on the ground. I'm like what the hell are you doing? No one touched you.

Wes:

No one touched you.

DeLaw:

No one touched you. Why are you? Why are you falling on the ground? You?

Wes:

know what that means when I was younger, when I would make like a play while I'm in practice and I'll move or something like that. My body can't understand that. I just actually did it because, you know, if you don't do it all the time you like, it's like your body just forgets like how to walk or some shit like that went in that I made that. Yeah, like that's probably what that was I mean the muscle memory wasn't there for that particular move. That's what I'm trying to say. It's possible.

DeLaw:

I'm not going to say that I ain't falling on the ground from doing a layup, but it wasn't. No, I do a Euro step and I put a shot up and I'm just clumsy enough to fall over. Nah, I ain't doing that, I'm on my feet. You know what I'm saying? These young kids. And then I don't know if it's me or maybe I just got too high of expectations because I've coached middle school basketball before and it's like there's no way that y'all guys are this bad.

Wes:

Don't do that it is.

DeLaw:

I'm not going to say they're not bad. We got a couple players that can ball and when it comes down to it and I was watching them practice on Friday these motherfuckers, they don't even want to shoot the ball, they want to get the ball to that nigga. Like alright, you going me, come on, let's pretend they don't even want to shoot the ball. They want to get the ball to that nigga. Like, all right, you're going to make it. Like, come on, like, let's pretend that we all can score here. You know what I'm saying. Let's pretend that we all can score and let's score. Like it can't be just every time we got a fast break that you look around for that one guy who you trust to make the shot. Like no, we can't do that, we gotta score. Everybody's gonna have to put the ball up, you know.

Wes:

But yeah, I don't want to get myself fired before we get started.

DeLaw:

Our first game was supposed to be yesterday at Greenbelt Middle against Laurel, but because of the non-existent snow that hit yesterday, they canceled it.

Wes:

Shout out to I ain't about to get into that man Shout out to the government. I'm just going to say shout out to the government. Shout out to y'all In all aspects, local and federal. Shout out to y'all yeah, because it's state. Shout out to y'all, local, state and federal. Shout out to y'all. Listen me, and you both can't afford to be talking kind of crazy. Yo, I have a buddy that works for local government. I ain't going to say what he do, but I get in the middle of that shit. I call him. He's like yo, on behalf of the county, I just want to apologize. I said nigga, like before I could even say anything, he wanted to apologize to me. What the fuck going on in the, in the community?

DeLaw:

I'm just like he was apologizing before shit even went down before I even said anything.

Wes:

This was just like our formal call. I'm like yo, how you family, that's how crazy, that's how crazy. But I, I ain't, uh, I ain't getting into that shit, but I ain't introducing myself. It's me, wes, as always. So we got Wes.

DeLaw:

Yeah, we got you too. Hey, man, look, it's a Corden and Wes podcast. It ain't Corden and D-Law Wes, it's just Corden and Wes.

Wes:

But that's the lesson. I give you the privilege to give your own ring announcer. You know situation going on there. I'm the one that come in bland and you got me West.

DeLaw:

Hey man, look, I told you I treat this like a WWE personality, you know, you know you got to have a moniker that comes with you, shit.

Wes:

The.

DeLaw:

Lord of the Devils, son-in-law, it just hit different, especially when we talk about the fuckery.

Wes:

It do. It's a crazy thing. I was at the dentist it was Thursday and you know, like, have you ever been in social situations where you be dead serious but people just like laughing and thinking you joking and shit like that? And I'm like I'm not fucking, I'm not joking. This is, this is me a hundred, this is me a hundred percent, because I was mad you forgot that I'm married yeah, it's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was uh.

DeLaw:

Every time I talk it's like I'm being serious and like, oh yeah, I know you're, I talk. It's like I'm being serious and like, oh yeah, I know you're being serious, but it's not that serious babe. Like you're making this serious more than I'm.

Wes:

like, all right, you're right, my wife does the same shit to me. Just laughing. I'd be like, nah, I'm dead serious about what I'm saying. There's no, there's no, I'm saying this to make you laugh. I am dead serious, like I was. I was getting a visit line like tuned up and shit, and they got to put these little brackets and stuff on your teeth. Well, you know, you familiar with your wife had a visit line right, yeah, she got, she got a visit line so long story short.

Wes:

They was like oh, you're missing one of the things, you're gonna have to put another one on one of your two, uh, the back two, for whatever. I'm like all right, cool, cool, cool cool. I'm thinking I'm like man, it's like the fourth one that I didn't bid off or whatever, or something happened and I didn't know what happened. So I'm like look and it's the, the assistant right there in the other, donald or death say obviously I've been swallowing these bitches. What is this safe? And they bust out laughing. I'm like no, I'm serious, I I don't know where it went, because I didn't see it come out of my food. I must have swallowed it, he tells me. He tells me well, I would think that you know some of the chemicals and stuff that we work with are safe to use in the mouth. So I think you should be good if you swallowed it. I'm like that's not reassuring. I was like come on man.

DeLaw:

Of course it's not reassuring because you think you done swallowed it.

Wes:

No, I know I did. I don't know where it went. Like, this is like the third thing. I don't know where it went. I'm like damn eating, I can't eat chips. Like I'm a. What I noticed about me? Right, I am a very I'm not a messy eater, but I don't take my time of time, so food is going every which way. It ain't staying right on the left side, on the right side, I'm just like fuck, I'm hungry. It has to get devoured. Hungry, hungry, hungry, hungry, hungry. So that's why braces when I had braces when I was younger, that shit just didn't work well, because it was like oh, cut your food, do this. I was always breaking a piece of metal or some shit like that. I'm like hang on, time for that shit.

DeLaw:

So you went from braces to now invisible. We talked about that.

Wes:

My mom was cheaped out and didn't get the retainer and my teeth spaced away again. You know, they spaced off again. They corrected the initial issue, which was crooked teeth, and then, without the retainer, they spaced apart. So now I'm back on the visit line paying out of my pocket. That's what I did.

DeLaw:

Yeah, the wife said that's what she got. Yeah, same issue, because my wife said she had braces. You had braces back in the day In middle school, but she said she had the ones that came around her head. Oh.

Wes:

Why you gonna do her like that. I owed her one Yo my wife would be so mad if I said that. She would be so mad that I put that out there. So mad.

DeLaw:

But she's still beautiful.

Wes:

It works.

DeLaw:

I'm going to have to make up for this later. Yeah, she's going to beat you. Yeah, you know she can move that refrigerator, so you know.

Wes:

He's strong.

DeLaw:

Congratulations, you played yourself.

Wes:

Yeah, man, Hopefully that shit is poisonous, but it Hopefully that shit is not poisonous, but it is what it is. It is what it is. Yo question for you as a married man how small does your circle need to be to have a peaceful life? Do you have a big circle? Do you have a medium circle, Small circle? What size of that circle?

DeLaw:

I don't have a big circle. I have a relatively small circle, to a point where I don't really deal with too many people. But you already know that I would say a decent sized circle is like four people, four people, four people.

Wes:

Shit. My circle is like a dot. It ain't even a circle for real. But I don't believe that you gotta have a small circle or a dot. It ain't even a circle for real, for real. But I don't believe that you gotta have a small circle or dot to have a. You know, to be successful, peaceful life and shit, whatever that means to you.

Wes:

Like, uh, I think the right type of people gotta be in your, your circle, and even if you got the wrong type of people, you gotta know how how to interact and and, and you know, go back and forth with these people. Like these, the people that don't come to baby showers, these, the people that come to you know little couple events and they gonna bring another. You know, your wife gonna meet another lady for the fifth time. You know what I mean. Like yo, this is sasha now, and it's only been two weeks. Like you know, knowing when to utilize your, the people in your circle. Like I'm starting to starting to realize that I don't have a big circle at all. Like I said, mine is like a dot and even the people in that dot they not really making my shit peaceful. That's because I allowed them not to make the shit peaceful. So I'm reassessing that, I'm reassessing that, I'm reassessing that.

DeLaw:

Do you think Especially for my circle? I'm not going to say there's a lot of people in my circle. I talk to a lot of people, but mostly just because you know what I'm saying. A lot of people talk to me, so, like my old supervisor and old co-workers, they all talk to me. And then people that I know that A lot of people talk to me, so, like my old supervisor and old co-workers, they all talk to me. And then people that I know that I see out, they talk to me.

DeLaw:

You know, like it's ain't like I'm going out my way to be like oh yeah, nah, nah, you my circle. It's just like oh yeah, no, you, you know, but not necessarily in the circle. They don't come to the crib. It's one of those things when you come to the crib, you're in the circle. In your case, I do a podcast but you're in the circle. You are now in the circle, but if it's just oh, hey, I'm going to buy you a drink today, you're in the circle outside the circle, you ain't in the inner circle so they're in the, they're in the circle where the newcomers are at, not the quote, unquote day ones or long, long acquaintances.

Wes:

You know what I mean.

DeLaw:

Yeah because I ain't going out my way. You know those people on the outer, outer circle, those are ones that, like Mr Fresh and my man Steve, yeah, I know who they are, they know who I am and if we see each other out, we we link up and whatever. But I ain't going on my phone to be like which I don't saying what y'all getting into, yeah, I ain't doing all that. If to be like what y'all doing, what y'all getting into, I ain't doing all that. If I see you out, I see you out. If I don't, hey, it is what it is. I ain't about to lose no sleep over it, right, you know what I'm saying. Like, I know, when Mr Fresh gonna be out, he gonna be out doing a Ravens game and he gonna be out. He's going to have his Raven gear on and then, once the game is over, he's going to play some. Uh, he's going to play some Boosie Yo Baltimore niggas love.

Wes:

If there's one thing the Baltimore niggas love, it's Lil Boosie, my camera's still fucking up. Look at that.

DeLaw:

They were still fucking up. They all love Boosie. Stand off in this motherfucker.

Wes:

Uh, meek Mill that they all love. Boosie, sad off in this, motherfucker Sad off. That's their shit. Boosie, meek Mill and trying to throw somebody else out there Right now, all I know is Boosie and Meek Mill. They definitely, without a doubt, I can say yeah, and them all day, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, boosie, they love Boosie.

DeLaw:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know they love Bootsy, but you know he from the South, you know what I'm saying. So for him, because he from the South, he listened to a lot of Southern music so you know, he said he spent a lot of time in Baton Rouge so he played a lot of.

Wes:

Kevin.

DeLaw:

Gates. Yeah, he played a lot of time in Baton Rouge. So he, he, he played a lot of Kevin Gates. Yeah, he played a lot of hot boys, a lot of Boosie, a lot of uh, anything from my Louisiana. He playing it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And you'd be hearing shit. You'd be like, yeah, they got this song on this thing. Like what the fuck? Yeah, this wasn't even popular, but that shit go. Because you know them, Baton Rouge niggas, they know how to party. They're going to put out a good song, they're going to put out a good beat. You know what I'm saying, you know. So it's one of those things.

Wes:

Shit. The other day I started listening to some underground Memphis shit from like I want to say the 90s, not even a three, six, but like DJ Zerk or some shit like that, and I forget the name of the goddamn song. Yo, I do remember the name. I just remember how the beat go. I just remember the song being very, very I mean the title song being very, very interesting and I was just like all right, this sound kind of crazy and nasty and I cannot remember. It's like one of them slobber my knob joints and I cannot remember the name of the goddamn song. Let me see the Memphis, uh, the Memphis, uh, kicks, and that motherfucker. That pattern is kind of that's what's at the point. I think it's DJ Zerk. I don't know if he's still alive or not. Too thick, that's what this shit called. Too thick. Listen to it on your old leisure, it's your old leisure.

DeLaw:

Don't get me in trouble.

Wes:

Matter of fact, I feel like getting you in trouble. Too thick it is. That's what we about to listen to. But yeah, I went through a whole situation there, whole situation. But um, but, um, as far as, like those people on the outside of the uh, the circle, the inner circle, your circle, the associate circle, in your opinion, do they, could they circle your circle, the associate circle? In your opinion, could they ever be invited to the cool kids table at lunch? Or is it like one of those things where you're at, where you're at? And if they can be, what's the criteria that they got to share the same lifestyle you got? Or how do they prove themselves to you to D-Law the double son-in-law that they in the circle?

DeLaw:

That's a tough one because being at the cool kids table you know what I'm saying that's a hard thing to do because back in high school the cool kids table was the ones who I ain't really have shit. They just had like relaxed parents who let them do whatever and they were just cool because they always had. Oh, ma, let me get this like. I know niggas that was getting jeans for like $40 a pop and it was like, oh yeah, you know, oh, they only cost $40. I'm like nigga, $40 that's expensive for a fucking you know jeans. You know what I mean. But a lot of times even the cool kids I never really thought they were cool. Now they wanted to sit at the d law the devil's son law table. They just got.

DeLaw:

You know, they just gotta be real niggas, that's it, you know? Yeah, all right drastic. You know what I'm saying, cause he show.

Wes:

Basically you saying, show some type of uh, authenticity, I got it for you you already know I can't.

DeLaw:

You already know I can't. Uh, I don't know too much. You know words and shit.

Wes:

I would, I would, I would second that like, show me as far as, like, if you're a guy and shit, show me that you, a man, that stand on something like I'm not saying and I'm not saying that in the most thuggish, gangster, glamorization type situation, but more or less like, be, be sturdy in who you are and shit like that. And, uh, you know, if you, if we are forming a relationship or friendship and shit like that, at some point in time one of both of our loyalty and trust is going to be tested. So if you pass, hey, you in there and we want to see how this shit rocks in between. That time Some people got seniority over you because they've been there for 20 plus years. You know what I mean. That's literally how it goes. With me, you won't be on that outer circle until something's like you know what. Come sit over here with us. You know what I mean. Like, come sit over here with me. What you got going on, how's, how's, you know how's life, you know, see what they lifestyle about and shit like that. So, yeah, I just thought that was.

Wes:

You know, as we are both how do I say this gracefully getting older in our adulthood and being men, that shit becomes kind of tricky.

Wes:

You tend to stay with your your day ones, but sometimes you outgrow your day ones and that's why your circle kind of tricky. You tend to stay with your, your day ones, but sometimes you outgrow your day ones and that's why your circle kind of gets smaller. Sometimes you develop new friends, but are they really true friends or are they just people that you know you like to do things with and they seem kind of cool, like has anything been tested? Has any? You know what I mean as far as like loyalty or respect. Or you know what I mean as far as like loyalty or respect, or you know stuff like that, like how one of my homies is like we go by this thing like yo, if you ain't taking care of your kids, like we not fucking hanging around with you, like a lot of us had, you know single moms as parents and shit. Like you think we gonna hang out with you and you ain't taking care of your kids and you ain't really got a reason not to.

Wes:

I lost friends over that.

DeLaw:

And you trying to blame everybody else for why you ain't taking care of your kids.

Wes:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I lost friends over that.

DeLaw:

See, I get that, though you know what I'm saying. I mean, I'm not gonna say I done, just been like all right, alright, man, fuck this nigga.

Wes:

Whatever I got friends you're not going to make me come to a baby shower, because I'm supporting you and your whole situation, but you don't take care of the kids, right? That's weird. You ain't even taking care of the kids. That's weird to me, right that's really weird.

DeLaw:

I don't take care of this one because of mom, and I get sometimes moms ain't necessarily the easiest to deal with, but like the excuse shouldn't always be well, the mom won't, it's like. So now what? Like you pay your child support, you're a good dad, mom just don't like you. Because mom just don't like you, okay, cool, but that doesn't mean that you just don't take care of your kids, like it's still your kid.

Wes:

Yeah, and taking care of is more than just financial. You got, you know, take care of their mental and their emotional and teach them things and shit like that. And um, as we both know, since we're older, that shit goes a long way.

Wes:

Yeah, so, it do yeah, I ain't never really respected that. I I believe I talked about that before here, but I'm just like, yeah, yeah, man, when it comes to my circle, hell yeah, what we just discussed is pretty much how I play that shit. Now, there's always that monkey wrench in the situation when it comes to being married and having certain friends of a certain lifestyle, like, for instance, me. I have a friend that believes in polygamy and he tries each and every way to make sure he gets his whole little situation of like one or two girls.

DeLaw:

Can you be mad?

Wes:

No, I'm not mad at him. My wife just thinks the shit is weird.

DeLaw:

Women think it's weird. When it's not them, I can't even say. I can't say they're like, oh well, they're always going to think it's weird, because sometimes they don't. But a lot of times what's weird to women isn't weird to men. If women can't understand it, it's weird to them. I don't know, it's just weird to me. Why would someone do that? Well, when you're talking about guys and how guys move, guys move in a very logical way to them.

Wes:

Yes.

DeLaw:

It's not going to be a logical way to everybody. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Cause, like, like me and my wife while we were at brunch talking, I was like she was like well, when would you want to refinance the house? I said, well, if we're going to refinance the house, If we're going to refinance the house, I would rather do it in 11 years. And she went well, why would you want to do that?

DeLaw:

I said, well, the way I see it, we're still in good health, good shape, everything else. If we refinance in 11 years, that'd be 15 years it means we should have paid close to half of it. You know what I'm saying. And whenever we get back into refinance, we can probably just throw it back into the mortgage and pay off whatever else is still left. You know what I'm saying. And go about it that way so that when we're ready to sell the house, we can sell and get more money. I mean, if we're refinancing at this point, clearly we're refinancing for a specific reason. Yeah, and she's like well, you know, I don't see it Like, why don't we refinance and put the money back into the house? I said, if we refinance now, then yeah, that makes complete sense. But if, let's say, the rates don't go down to something that we like in 15 years, 16 years, if we decide to refinance and the refinance pays off the rest of the house, why not pay off the rest of the house and just pay the taxes on the house?

Wes:

And even when y'all refinance, you ain't got to refinance for the whole thing. Let's just say y'all wanted to do just repairs. If I don't know what y'all sitting on equity, I'm not asking, but if it's like, let's just say, hypothetical, it's 300,000 sitting on equity and the let's just say, the renovations is 80 because refinance for 80 K, you ain't paying that much extra when you. You know, when you refinance and stuff like that, that was quick money for y'all to redo whatever. So when it comes time to sell in a year or two, all y'all shit is modern, whatever modern is going to be for 20 and the 2030s or the 24 years. You know what I'm saying. I think everyone should be thinking about it that way. But a lot of people don't even know that that's an option that they can do. Yeah, or they're just like, well, uh, I'm gonna just sell the house as is and they won't have to do the repairs. But but the house won't sell quicker.

DeLaw:

When everything looked nice, shiny and and you know up to date because all the other houses you still got put that work in and they ain't got to worry about it, cause the way I looked at it was if, if, if we're going to sell the house as is, then we might as well go go to second route of once. We get to a certain amount of time in the house just to refinance, pay off the house and then just say, all right, look, we just want to get out of the house, we'll refinance, and then we get the full amount of whatever we're going to pay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I look at it that way because I'm like, if we go ahead and do all the work to the house, so let's say we get a new housing unit in the furnace, we get a new kitchen, bathrooms, whatever carpet, it's cool and all, but we just wasted money that we, you know, we could have. Probably just really sad one, really.

Wes:

yeah, yeah, yeah listen, multiple reasons to refinance. You could refinance and and and throw the the money into a high interest yield account. Uh, make, make your money, make some money. And once it made the free money that you're going to pay taxes on, of course, that you made you could take that money that you put in that account and throw it right back into the mortgage and then, boom you back to where you was at. Like, even if it's like, oh, you started your loan over, it's like, yeah, I did, but I paid it off. So you know I paid it off quicker. I mean, you know you get what I'm saying.

DeLaw:

Like, yeah, I mean you know you get what I'm saying. Like yeah, because somebody else was telling me the same thing of if you're going to do it. You know they said, if you get 15 years on a loan, let's say you got 15 years left on your loan they were just like why don't you just refinance to a? Uh, less, less time, paying it at a certain point? You know, I mean they're like at a certain point, yeah, you might, you might pay less because you got 15 years left, but why not finance it to where you're probably still paying the same amount but you pay it off sooner and you're good to go? It's like I thought of that.

Wes:

Yeah, but it's not something that I go out my way to really think about either yeah, I think about all those things that I try to think about, uh, cause you know, those life changing uh situations happen, just like that. So sometimes I like to like sit down and just what are the possibilities of this happening? Or this happened? Or, just in case this happened, how could I move financially?

Wes:

I don't have any plans to do any of that shit right now, but you know, it's always good to just kind of know what you can and can't do and stuff like that, because there's been so many times where when I was younger, even in my older age, where certain situations happen and I didn't think about it, clearly I didn't know of information. Then maybe two, three years come to go down the line. I'm like, oh shit, I've learned something. I could have handled this situation like this and would have been better off. So I was like, all right, I need to educate myself financially when it comes to what I can and can't do, like you know, utilizing your 401k or utilizing equity in your house via refinance, what you should be doing it for and not what you shouldn't be doing it for, and stuff like that.

DeLaw:

I'll be right.

Wes:

I need some days off Shit.

Wes:

You said what I need some days off, shit, I think we all do. I think we all do Pretty sure. They're the Pretty sure. Yeah, even though I just took some time off, I'm like, nah, that wasn't enough, wasn't fucking enough. So another question for you Hypothetically D-Law, you hypothetically d-law, uh, hypothetically in another world, another timeline, uh, multiverse situation going on.

Wes:

You're not married to your current wife, you don't. You have a matter, but you have an ex-wife because we ain't gonna put that out there. You have an ex-wife, y'all share a kid, y'all get divorced and stuff like that. And you become cool. Or for parent husband, right, you y'all cool, like, y'all hang out, y'all go to the bar, you talking to him about girls, you smashing and shit like that. They in the circle, somehow, some way they are in the laws circle. It makes co-parenting very, very easy because you know you and your ex-wife, you know y'all cool, but you know things going on and stuff like that. You find out no, okay, you find out that it's this old bling that he had that you might be interested in. Do you feel like you need to ask permission before you give your answer? I want to read you this story before you answer. I want to read you this story. Before you answer, I want to read you this story.

Wes:

So story goes, as I am a 36 year old female and my best friend is a 33 year old female. We have known each other eight to nine years. We met when she linked with my ex-husband. We just clicked and it made co-parenting super easy. I have never had a friend that stuck around as long before. Anyways, she came here from South Carolina to marry my ex. Recently. I got a random ad on Snapchat from the South Carolina area. I get a lot of randos and I was bored so I accepted, started off pretty standard and eventually grew into a friendship. Then more. I told my bestie that I met this guy, that I met a guy who was acting as my hype man whenever I go to the gym and post a selfie. By this point we had already exchanged some explicit content. She sent some pussy pictures Bravo. I kept her informed of progression and then on Christmas Eve, we realized that this guy was an old fling of hers and she was, and she has a hall pass from my ex to go have shenanigans for a weekend or something. Uh.

DeLaw:

Wait, a hall deal at all.

Wes:

We joked about. Our taste in men is similar. Now it's been a couple of weeks and when I mentioned him at kid exchange she shut down on me. I texted her a little bit later because her reaction was eating at me. I asked her if there was a problem and she basically told me she felt betrayed by both of us because neither of us asked her first and that she never would have taken things as far with someone whose roles were reversed. She told me that she deleted and blocked him off of all of her social media and she almost done the same to me. If you want him, he's free range. I responded that. I responded to be fair. We progressed past certain things before we knew of the connection.

DeLaw:

She had range right.

Wes:

She knows that free range we knew of the connection she had to him and I'd wrongly assumed it was okay to continue talking to him because, well, she's married to my ex and he's never caused any tension and it's never caused any tension, plus all all the laughter and jokes I apologize for my part. And she put and she put what she put, what felt like a guilt trip on me, telling me that she doesn't think he's even noticed that she's MIA. But she bet he talks, huh, but she's MIA, she hasn't even noticed that she's MIA. She bets he talked to me all day long, every day, and that's not the case. We talk intermittently, but not a full conversation all day long.

Wes:

Anyway, my initial reaction is to let him down gently and to tell him it couldn't be involved. I couldn't be involved anymore, which I did. But now I feel a little angry, like I definitely, like I'm definitely hurt because I really like the guy and she's already married. It gives don't touch my toys, vibes. I had known before I got involved. I hadn't. If I had known before I got involved, I could see being this upset but being as I didn't know in the beginning and she made jokes about it all at first. I don't know, maybe I'm just a pile of garbage and it's actually me giving the don't touch my toys vibe.

DeLaw:

so don't touch your toys. You don't touch your toys.

Wes:

You don't say you don't find nothing strange with the way these women are interacting with each other?

DeLaw:

well, I don't find it to be strange only because it doesn't sound strange that women would interact that way, like you gotta think about. Women are always in competition with each other. Even when they are always in competition with each other even when they're not in competition.

Wes:

But she's married to her ex-husband yeah, yeah, so because she's married.

DeLaw:

So so the person who wrote the article, her ex-husband, is married to some rando chick, right?

Wes:

not rando. They did yeah, basically, and then they became friends.

DeLaw:

They became friends, right? That's where the first problem was you should never became friends not not that type of friends, exactly, exactly.

Wes:

You keep your ass on the outer circle and we talk. We're cordial, we might do some things together, but I ain't letting you know personal shit.

DeLaw:

Then the husband gives you a hall pass.

Wes:

Okay, that's crazy.

DeLaw:

That's already crazy. He out here cranking shit too. I don't even mean that. Okay, that's crazy, that's already crazy, that's already crazy he out here cranking shit too.

Wes:

Nah, it don't even mean that. It could just mean that he a cuck and he like to sit in the chair in the corner while guys do his wife and he sit there with his dick in his hand. That could be a thing. Yeah, that could be a thing. There's no way I'm gonna be like telling my wife like yeah, you get a hall pass.

Wes:

Here's the thing even if I said that and she acted on it, it's done, because it's like why you wanna act on that right because, the way I see it, there's no woman.

DeLaw:

A woman might give you a hall pass, but there's no woman. That's going to be like well, you know what? There's someone oh well, my husband. He fucked another chain. Whatever, it's not that big of a deal, Dudes ain't like that. That means you opened your leg. It's one thing if you just got something hanging from you. I'm not saying that guys are right for it, but I'm not saying that guy's right for it. But I'm just saying we're putting something in, but you got to open up your legs and let somebody get in you. They got to get on top of you and a lot of times you're probably enjoying it and it's like I don't know if I want to hear that I ain't ever giving my wife no hall pass.

Wes:

The unfortunate double standard is the reason why it works is because if we were to do it, our wife or whoever can always chalk it up to oh, that bitch was a hoe. If they were to do it, they the hoe. It's just not going to work. The same reason why that chick would be a hoe if I did it, because it was just something I fucked. We don't want to look at you the same way. So I don't want to look at somebody that I'm dealing with like, oh bitch, did some hoe shit. You know what I mean. Like I don't want to look at. Look at it that way.

Wes:

So it's like her first mistake was like being that buddy, buddy, like yo, like that's your old work, like, nah, I'm not even even if, even if I found it odd that that might be her ex, don't care, and I'm not doing it to give back. It probably just happened. But the but the strange thing is I'm like what are the odds of that? It's her old, it's her, her old piece of work that just happened to to uh, you know, message you. That sounds like you're still in contact. That guy found you and he was like yo, I'm going to make someone so mad. That's what that sounds like.

DeLaw:

That's exactly what it sounds like.

Wes:

But first of all it's just not. I understand the friend thing, but she didn't know that was her ex until whatever. So it doesn't really matter. But if like, like, if I knew one as guy code or whatever, like typically don't go behind. This is crazy. If the chick is a hoe, she's a hoe, right, you ain't really going behind your friend back. But if he was like romantically involved, might have some kids with her and stuff like that, you still shouldn't. But if you felt inclined, you are supposed to say, hey, I'm thinking about, or this you know, might move in this situation, and your friend at that time has every right to be like yay or nay and he has every right to treat you a certain type of way if you go forward either way, even if he said yeah, because it's kind of gonna be like yo, why you gotta be like, you know what I mean. Like, come on now.

DeLaw:

It's a tricky situation, but you know that once it's the ex-wife that's, that is her ex-husband and she's like all right yeah, I, um, especially.

Wes:

We got all past. Why am I, why am I letting you know anything? You, you, you married and happy with my, with my ex-husband not that you took him away from me, but like you're, like you're happy, you shouldn't even have eyes. The fact that you want me to to to check in with you, even even after we realized that it was prior to me knowing that's the thing that that sounds like that lady's still fucking him it's like you want me to check in with you about somebody who's not your husband.

DeLaw:

Just some. Just some fling. He was fucking you know some old fling of yours. You know what I'm saying.

Wes:

That lady is still messing with that dude.

DeLaw:

Yeah, she is.

Wes:

That's what that sounds like, because why block him? It doesn't really matter. You should have been blocked him. I'm married now, that's what you should have been did, but the fact that she got a hall pass, that means you know that's the only way I see you know what I'm saying.

DeLaw:

That's the only way I see you being mad about it. Or, oh, you gotta check in with me. I gotta check in with you about who I'm fucking and you married. That means I mean honestly, like you said. All that means I mean honestly, like you said, all that really means is that, that's your hall pass fling. That's what that is.

Wes:

Yeah, that's what that's starting to sound like.

DeLaw:

It's your hall pass fling. And now you're a little bothered that your hall pass fling ends up being you know, my jank, you know what I'm saying. Well, you know, my jank, you know what I'm saying. Well, you know, you got to check in because you know, if my husband give me a hall pass, I don't want him to feel like he got to choose between me and you. No, first of all, when you do a hall pass, why are you going back to the same motherfucker every time? It's a hall pass, for a reason.

Wes:

Hypothetically, allegedly, allegedly, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it's a hall pass.

DeLaw:

for a reason, you're going to go back to the same penis every time because it's convenient. What the dang again for relationship, and it wasn't.

Wes:

Oh, just think if you got a. But just outside of that, just think if you got a hall pass, and then that shit was trash. You're going to want a do-over, Mm-hmm. And you're not going to get a do-over. You're like hey, bitch, that was your whole past. You're not getting a do-over, You're like fuck. So sometimes you got to go to fuck her over live.

DeLaw:

See, I don't trust the theory of a whole past. I do With a whole past, Okay yeah, not for my woman, no. Not with my woman. No, that means if my wife can just as quickly find somebody like that and fuck them, that means you've been talking to this nigga a whole lot more than what you're saying.

Wes:

Yeah, that's very true, but you're thinking that's the person that you're saying yeah, that's very true, but you're thinking, like, that's the person that you should call. Like, you know what's going on, you've been scoping it out.

DeLaw:

I'm like it's you.

Wes:

Even if it wasn't random guy.

DeLaw:

You met at the bar and you smashed him like that, like, come on, that means now you got a whole bunch of tendencies. Did I marry the right person that you could just go out to the bar and just say I just want to fuck something. My husband gave me a whole pass. I'm going to fuck it Like what? I can't, no, no, that's dead. All right. I can't no, nope, that's dead Alright.

Wes:

I just thought of something Like is it okay? So let's just say yo, boom, what do you think is worse in a woman's eyes? Like she's? Like yo, I gave you a hall pass right In your head. You're like, alright, bet, I'm gonna go fuck with so-and-so off of OnlyFans. You think whoever your woman or your wife will be like you know what, Never fucking mind, never mind, never mind, because you already been paying. Let's just say yo, you, that type of nigga You've been paying the monthly fee of saying I don't know I'm trying to think of a name, but I don't know no names.

Wes:

I'm just Scorpio 2000, like busting it wide for like monthly and you know, you paying your $10, you tipping her extra 10, a squirt on the camera and shit like that. You're like you know what, I would like to have a piece of that pussy. Do you think if you're significant other ass like yo, so did you go through with it? Isn't anybody I know? Do you think you should be inclined to say, hey, now's the check off only for us? Would that fuck up? Would that fuck up your situation even more? Or do you think it's safe to say it was some chick I met at I don't know the ice skating rink or some shit like that no matter what.

DeLaw:

It don't matter what chick it was. It could have been the nice, friendly chick from you don't think the OnlyFans?

Wes:

shit hurt might hit the heart, shit I do see women those are professional whores, so you think she ain't gonna be thinking in the back of her head like damn did she?

DeLaw:

how many nuts did she suck out of him at one time, like when she said she wouldn't think that I'm saying women, they'll give you a hall pass and then they want to see what the woman looks like. They want to know if you, just if, pass, and then they want to see what the woman looks like. They want to know if you, just, if you just fucking something, just to fuck something in as an ugly bitch, they'd be like, all right, yeah, that bitch was ugly anyway, I told that that goes back to what I said.

Wes:

They just like they're going to already classify her as a hoe. So I was like why not just go to the hoes? Right, but then let it be done right, so I don't have to think about another whole phase and I take that now.

DeLaw:

But the only issue with that is is now, with that, with that, you end up now trying to. I guess, once you, once you, oh, she was just a ho. Now they're like oh, so you're just fucking hoes now. That's a whole other explanation. I just don't think women really don't know what they want, but they're going oh, here's your hall pass, do whatever you want to do. As soon as you tell them that you were with a ho or OnlyFans in their head, I can't keep up with that. She probably did some shit that I ain't never heard of. They be in their own heads, but I don't know, I don't know, it's a tough one.

Wes:

I know my wife, she not, she doesn't. Yours not giving me a pass, yours not giving you a pass, mine not giving me a pass, it's not, it's not gonna happen. But I think if, like another multi verse universe type situation, if mine gave me a pass I'm definitely not saying that, she was from only fans, definitely not saying that and you gonna have to pay for the shit, and she was from OnlyFans Definitely not saying that, and you had to pay for the shit. So it's just kind of like I better wear that motherfucker out.

DeLaw:

I'm about to say look, you might only have one time.

Wes:

Oh, I'm going to have one. Yeah, shit, but hey, I'm about to say, shout out to them.

DeLaw:

So your advice for the young lady is if you think you need to really justify it to her, then clearly they ain't your friend. I mean, that's how I look at it yeah, she's not thinking rationally.

Wes:

It's different if it was just like oh, I knew that's who that was, so I went out there and he came out to me. So if you block him, that's fine and and, to be honest, like it's like yo, were you fucked up at. My advice is were you fucked up at? My advice is keep your romantic shit private. If you do consider her your friend, you guys consider her your friend, you guys consider yourselves friends.

Wes:

No matter how weird I might think, it seems to be the best thing to do if y'all are friends, if you don't want to see your friends hurt, you know you apologize what you did already and just change your behavior, which you did already. You cut it off on them and shit. But from now on, keep your romantic shit private, because that's how she is and also it's kind of like yo. Here's another thing in this type of situation, right, you wouldn't think that you're um, you as his, as that child's mom, as that child, as that mom, as that child's mom. You don't think you, you will want to talk to your ex-husband like yo, you just letting her take her pussy out on the town, like how is that going to affect you?

Wes:

right because my kid is still staying, you know. I mean, my child is still staying at the house and shit like that. So it's kind of like what do you think you can handle? You can handle that. You know what I mean. Yeah, is there going to be arguing in the house?

DeLaw:

I don't think they thought that far. Come on now.

Wes:

If the roles were reversed and it was. If it was, yeah, then my homie was like yo, no, I found out, my ex-wife gave her husband a pass. I'm like, what are you doing? Now? Y'all going to break up and now I'm going to have the kid full time. You ain't going to have a place to live and I'm not paying more in child support. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not doing that. What are you doing? So that's exactly what's going to happen they're going to break up. If the roles were reversed, I told them to ask my wife like yo, what are you doing? Nah, I think I should do that. She's going to get in her feelings. She's going to get mad. He might try his hand more than once.

DeLaw:

I mean, well, we knew that she was going to be in her, he was going to be in her, he was going to be in it. Like when you get home past, you got to be a. It's almost like someone saying, hey, we want to start being swingers.

Wes:

It's like there's a very. There's a very select, not select. There's a very small ratio of people that can handle that. I know I'm not one of them.

DeLaw:

I ain't one of them, because I'd be like the dude who was on social media talking about something. He put the option of swinger in his wife's head and then, when it started, when it happened, he thought he was doing something. But then she over there.

Wes:

Swinging.

DeLaw:

Getting down, down and she was like she was making noises that she never made with me.

Wes:

There's no way. There is no fucking To some people that shit turns them on. There is no way.

DeLaw:

Nah, ain't no way If I'm hearing my wife screaming like that dude is giving her the best sex of her life. Nah, we ain't doing that. Nah, no, sir, the best sex of her life, Nah we ain't doing that Nah, who's that Hell?

Wes:

no.

DeLaw:

My anxiety ain't built that way.

Wes:

It's not the anxiety, it's probably just the rage for me, I'd be catching a murder charge at that point. I don't want to catch a murder charge. That's why I'm just like you know what nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. It would definitely all the smizzle, it would definitely be rage. I don't know man if. Listen, lady, keep your romantic life private from this lady. Continue to be friends and it is what it is. You shouldn't even know that there's a fucking hall. Pass Y'all just weird. That's just a weird thing.

DeLaw:

I understand y'all close and y'all besties and shit, but Because it almost sounded like it was like oh, she got a hall pass for me to fuck my ex-husband. That's what I thought you were going with Nah, nah, nah, nah nah.

Wes:

A new wife or new person has a hall pass from a lady's ex-husband.

DeLaw:

In her head she's like wait, you gave this bitch a hall pass. You ain't never give me no hall pass, nigga, I don't think they're worried about that.

Wes:

Yeah, I wouldn't. I don't know, man, I'd like that, but think about the reason that you give somebody a hall pass. I would think right. And I would think if a man is giving a woman a hall pass, he can't perform somehow some way, right?

DeLaw:

see, I wouldn't even say that if you're giving your wife a hall pass, what else are you giving her a hall pass for? That's what the she was for the streets nah, you gonna just be for the streets then.

Wes:

I. Are you giving her a hall pass? For that's what the? Because you knew she was for the streets. Nah, you're going to just be for the streets then? I'm not giving you a fucking hall. I'm not staying married to somebody that's for the streets.

DeLaw:

You never know.

Wes:

I mean because no, I know this sounds like a white woman.

Wes:

You never know, that causes a little bit of. So listen, you're right, I don't know that mindset, but I can say well, I would think my opinion it would be erectile dysfunction, small meat, or he likes to be a cook, a couple of those things can be solved. The cook thinguck thing is just, it is what it is. You know what I mean. But the erectile dysfunction, you know that could be reversed. A small meat hey, I hear they got prosthetics now. So you want to dig your wife out like?

DeLaw:

that A prosthetic dick.

Wes:

Yeah, you strap on a dick on your dick, double dick, double dick in her, damn, like. If you on a dick on your dick, double dick, double dick in or down, like, if you want to do that, hey, hey, double dick or down. But, um, lord, yo, yeah. Shout out to her, shout out to Bova. Shout out to Bova, though. Shout out to the one that gets to take her pussy out to her. Shout out to Bovado. Shout out to Bovado. Shout out to the one that get to take her pussy out on vacation. And shout out to the other lady, like yo, like, keep your shit private. You, you, you, and take solace in the fact that you're no longer with a guy that will want to give you a hall pass.

DeLaw:

I mean, from the sounds of it she ain't never give, he ain't never you a hall pass. I mean, from the sounds of it, he ain't never give no hall pass on her. He just said nah, bitch, you come.

Wes:

Nah, maybe they broke up, maybe that's the ex, because he, you know, he needed a double dick. Or, like Eric told us oh, he wanted to be a cuck and she was like I'm not fucking bringing another man in the fucking bedroom. I mean not another man, that's even crazier. Yeah, yeah, I'm not bringing another man into a bedroom, I'm not letting another man fuck me, so. But that's how that shit start out. So she probably get a hall pass to go fuck another guy, but he only, he only give it this, the part that we won't know. He only giving her that hall pass so she can tape it and he can watch it later and then beat off in the basement or some shit like that.

DeLaw:

That'd be crazy.

Wes:

That happens all the time.

DeLaw:

That would be crazy.

Wes:

You don't think it happens all the time. Look, because he, probably because he also I'm making a whole universe out of these people's situation. I'm like, but shit like that happens all the time. On that note, keep your circle as small as a dot, like I do. You wanna have these problems? And yeah, thank everybody for coming in.