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According To Wes
When Life Hands You Bills, There's A Wife Involved
Wes and DeLaw tackle the financial pressures of modern life, from the shocking $80 price tag for pay-per-view boxing matches to the complex question of whether one spouse should pay for another's $73,000 student loan debt.
• Boxing pay-per-view events now cost $80 regardless of Amazon Prime membership status
• The concept of "stressed man strength" versus the traditional idea of "old man strength"
• Heated debate about whether pre-existing student debt becomes shared responsibility in marriage
• Exploration of the viral "mediocrity" conversation about career standards and dating preferences
• Personal grocery shopping experiences revealing inflation's impact—nearly $300 spent in one day
• Practical approaches to handling sudden wealth like lottery winnings
• Real estate strategies for maximizing home investment versus enjoying quality of life
• Changing financial priorities when facing rising costs and economic uncertainty
It'll be there when it's time. What?
Wes:I ain't never even thought of that. I didn't even know that was words that you can put together. It'll be there in that second. Yo, I either have it or I don't Like. If I don't, I don't Everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the According to Wes podcast. As always, we got D-Law here.
DeLaw:We got D-Law here, d-law. We almost didn't lose. We didn't lose by a lot of points yesterday.
Wes:Oh my gosh man, Y'all still losing, yeah, still losing.
DeLaw:We lost by four or five yesterday.
Wes:You got me Wes Yo. When you win, when you guys finally win, you got to come on energetic. You got to do a whole WWE announcement.
DeLaw:We won by four feet against.
Wes:When y'all win it, I officially win a game due to skill.
DeLaw:Well, you know, I also have Mrs Smith with an F here.
Wes:Okay Me and her who else yeah. Yeah.
DeLaw:She just waited. She was like hey, what up nigga.
Wes:So the fight right. So I forgot what I was going to ask you. You said he was pretty much getting outboxed. He was the aggressor. Roach was the aggressor. I forgot what I was about to ask about Davis dang. I lost my train of thought when you said I lost again. Oh, that's what I was going to ask. So I don't have cable TV. Is there a way to watch pay-per-view without cable tv, like the showtime app or something like that?
DeLaw:it was on amazon prime that was on prime but you had to pay 80 bucks for it, regardless of the description level.
Wes:Yeah, that's fine. I don't know if that's fine. Hey, yo remember back in the day, 50, when you were younger, like you would hear your uncles or whoever say $50 and that was too much.
DeLaw:80 is crazy yeah, 80 is crazy and I already pay you 15 to $25 depending on my account, and you want me to pay you 80 for the fight. Listen.
Wes:I'm piggybacking off my sister, we piggybacking off my sister, and it might be one of those things I might just say yo tell my wife toss her the whatever the next time this shit on prime.
DeLaw:I wouldn't if I had the money. But if it was, if you have Amazon Prime, whatever your membership you pay for that month will take that off of what you for the fight.
Wes:It doesn't that way no, it doesn't, oh my gosh. I would have been like, I would have been like alright, oh, it doesn't that way. No, it doesn't, oh my gosh. You know how many people would sign up if that was the case.
DeLaw:Because then I would have been like, I'd have been like all right, who want to come over? Just throw me 10 bucks. All I need is about five, six figures over here. Listen, it'd be the episode of Boom, we Gucci, we could have watched it.
Wes:It'd be the episode of Martin all over again where he couldn't even see the damn fight. Bro man got his feet on his counter, his kitchen counter, and shit respect my house. Yeah, man, I'm a casual watcher at best. Same thing with the UFC casual watcher at best. Not that I'm not interested in, casual watcher at best, not that I'm not interested in any of that stuff. I never know when the fights go on unless somebody say yo, come to the house, I'm going to have food. You know I make my way over there. Or if I ain't doing nothing, most of the time I'm just like yo, I'm tired, I don't even want to. You know what I mean, what you know what I mean. But like what's on the fight? The fights come on like late at night. I was in bed by 10.
DeLaw:The main event don't come on until almost 12.
Wes:Yeah, yeah. So I was in bed by 10 only because I was up early as fuck Friday morning. So my shit thrown all the way off.
DeLaw:See, I didn't mind the Shakur Stevens fight last week because it was in Saudi Arabia, so it came on at 1. So Shakur Stevens fought at like 330.
Wes:Didn't even know. Didn't even know how was that he lost the tank. For Christ's sake.
DeLaw:No, he didn't fall tank yet.
Wes:I thought they fought. Oh, you know what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of what was the last tank fight. I'm thinking of when he?
DeLaw:fought Ghost. Nah, I'm thinking of when he fought Goose.
Wes:Nah, I'm thinking about Ryan. Oh, Garcia, Garcia. That's what I'm thinking of.
DeLaw:Yeah, honestly, you know what's funny about that fight, because you know Baltimore. Oh yeah, no, you know, he was just sizing him up.
Wes:I said nah Garcia was out boxing, he was working on him and that one I seen a lot of just by clips and stuff like that and it looked like he was getting work.
DeLaw:Oh, no, he was getting work, but I mean once he had started, so once he had sort of figured out, figured him out and he started stalking him around the ring and putting him on the ropes and he started giving him them body shots to the liver, that really took him, that Garcia down. It wasn't that he outboxed Garcia, he hit him with that shot. You know you get hit in the liver one too many times.
DeLaw:I don't want to experience that man, that shit goes to your knees. I don't want to. You can't breathe it hasn't happened.
Wes:I don't want it to happen, but I've heard the horror stories.
DeLaw:Oh, you know that, don't feel it don't feel right Once you get hit in your liver. You don't feel right, like you can't like you're like like it burns.
DeLaw:Yeah, I don't want to witness that. And then you want to get in it and it's a delayed signal too, cause it's like you get hit and you're like, oh, all right, that wasn't that bad. But then all of a sudden you're like, oh shit, damn, it's like almost like a five to ten second delay before your brain realized you were hitting your liver. Shit. It is a tough thing to get hit in.
Wes:Worse than a dick. Yeah, I don't know man, I got hit in the dick a couple times.
DeLaw:That one goes straight to your stomach.
Wes:Nah Yo, I got hit so bad eyes water. These buckle eyes water, knees buckle eyes watered. I was like, oh no, oh man, jeez Louise About to cry just thinking about that shit. But yeah, man, yeah.
DeLaw:I'm not paying $80. Yeah, no, I wasn't either. Like it would have to be Tyson in his prime going up against so $80.
Wes:So you spend $80 around and this is like yeah it's kind of like how the Ronda Rousey yeah, they did the same thing and they was fools for it.
DeLaw:yeah, but you know what it was was a must-see of Tyson. You had to see Tyson because you wanted him to knock somebody out. Yeah, he was like yo, he want to knock this dude out in the second round. He come out there. He get out there at 11 o'clock. He done at 11.05.
Wes:Already getting the lines of cocaine ready for him in the limo, like have my rails remade, because once I'm done, I'm done.
DeLaw:Once I'm done, I'm done. You get out there. Oh, and he's down and it's over. He look like all right. Well, they give you my 15 mil. All right, do my interview. Let me get back, shower. Take these gloves off me. Let's get out of here, shout out to Mike.
Wes:I'm still mad I didn't get to see that his one man, his one man show. Yeah, when they came to the MGM. Yeah, I think right before then, or I think COVID had stopped it or something like that, and that was it. I thought it was after COVID was it after COVID, I don't remember. I know I wanted to see it and I didn't get to go see it. Only I talked about this before. The only time I've been in that and it's a good theater was to see Marlon.
Wes:Wayans was he funny? He was alright. I talked about this before the only time I've been in that and it's a good theater.
DeLaw:It was to see Marlon Wayans Was he funny, he was alright.
Wes:I mean, it was just kind of like, you know, like date night type thing, something to do with my wife and shit Right. And I wanted to check out the theater, like the whole setup is nice, the sound system is nice, the little bar area is nice, I would like to go see and do things. Uh, I just gotta check their schedule, their spring and summer schedule and shit.
DeLaw:But it's a nice little day night thing I think the trip you're right by here, so it's, it's a little. It's a little closer to you. I gotta plan that out yeah.
Wes:I would say let's just say if you and wifey was to plan that out, stay in VA, don't stay down there, stay in VA. You can go right across the bridge. Well, y'all can go right across the bridge and you know, you got some reasonable price restaurants there. Go to do the event at the, you know, at the casino proper. That's how I would do it me us. We can just go home.
DeLaw:You know what I mean there's a one of them over there in GM.
Wes:Oh yeah, yeah y'all should be good. Yeah, it's a good little situation when um in the summer, they do, um in the summer they do a um in the summer, they do I'm thinking white thing they do a wine festival, they do a um, they do a bunch of stuff. Like, if y'all plan that out correctly, since I got the uh time share, it's good little. You know good little two-day thing that makes sense.
Wes:Good little two-day thing. I remember one time I stayed at the girl's at the time like her uncle. Somebody had a time share so we was in that thing. I think they got like a penthouse. We weren't in the penthouse, but we was on one of the things. We could see the fireworks from the Wyndham, like over the water and stuff like that, and that was pretty cool. The hotel party.
DeLaw:Yeah, because I wouldn't mind doing like a weekend stay down at MGM in the Wyndham and just going down there, right there by Virginia, so we can go right across the bridge, go to Virginia. I say I'm just going down there, we're right there by Virginia, so we can go right across the bridge.
Wes:Go to Virginia. I say, whenever y'all do it, do the boat taxi, because that's going to be nice.
Wes:Do that Y'all will have been at the casino. Not just to kind of go between VA and Old Town, alexandria, like that area right there there's a. Just to kind of go between VA and Old Town, arlington, old Town, alexandria, like that area. Right there there's a I forget the name of the restaurant, but it's a nice restaurant over there as soon as you get off the boat, nice little place to walk around and shit like that. Yeah, do all that stuff. You're going to come out. You're going to spend some bread On extracurriculars.
DeLaw:You're going to spend some bread but it's going to be a nice little situation. I don't think there's a Wyndham in DC, but we have access to a hotel down there that we want to really just stay for like. Let's say, we just was like you know what, let's just stay in DC for a week for like 400, some nice one down there. Yeah, I would do that for, like, if we decided to do like the margarita march or something.
Wes:What is that?
DeLaw:You know, the last week, the last Saturday, sunday and April go to like eight different places. You get one free margarita. You gotta walk it, but it but pay like maybe 40 bucks.
DeLaw:I think the most I've ever paid was like in dc never heard of the first year I went it was like their second or third year doing it. So we were on u street. So we, I'm, I, went to me, me and uh, me and my boy went to all the ones on U Street in that area. We didn't go down to DuPont. The next year we went, we took more people with us I think there was two on U Street and a restaurant on DuPont and the third and last time we went, everything was in DuPont.
Wes:Listen, the way things are going in DC, I don't know. Yeah, man, it sounds like I say that every year. This year has just been the worst, the way things are going in DC.
DeLaw:I mean, you know President Musk, you know what I'm saying. He out here trying to rip things to shreds.
Wes:Nah, I ain't talking about that. I'm just talking about crime, crime, crime and crime. But you know, I don't know Some of that stuff. To be honest, like you know, you hear the crime right, but I grew up in DC in the 90s, so it's kind of like is this any different from what I've seen as a kid or what I'm hearing as a kid?
DeLaw:I'm like I don't know, I lived in DC in the early 90's and I mean, depending on where you are, you still got to sleep under your bed you still got to sleep under your bed.
Wes:I ain't listening, I don't know about that. You still going to hear that pop, pop pop every night?
DeLaw:oh yeah, all the time it ain't nothing different at all. I mean, I tell you, we live in a Section 8 basement apartment. You know what I'm saying. If it rained, that motherfucker flooded. So imagine the laundry room is directly ahead of your apartment. Yeah, Water coming right towards you. You're like damn, ain't that some shit, that we're in the basement and you know listen.
Wes:I only select. People from the area will know what these names mean, because one of the names ain't called the place, ain't called that, no more. But I stayed in when I was little little, stayed in wingate, which is southwest. A lot of people don't like eastover area. It ain't even called wingate, no more. I don't know what it's called. I drove past it the other day and then for a little bit most of my childhood stayed in clay terrace. That's still clay terrace is still clay terrace.
DeLaw:Y'all know what that is Because Wingate is off of it. Mlk yeah, and then shit.
Wes:And then Minnesota Avenue Stone Ridge Apartments I think it's still called Stone Ridge Apartments by Kimbo Elementary Fort Dupont Park. Stayed in that area Close to Benning Road. Y'all know what Benning Road is, so y'all know that shit. In a sec Boom, I'm right off Minnesota.
DeLaw:So it sounds like y'all moved from Southwest, southwest to Northeast, yeah that's it.
Wes:That's literally what happened, and then PG County. So it was just like yo, I done, seen some things, I done, met in some things. You talking shit to an old man Do you believe in old man strength?
DeLaw:I believe in stressed out man strength. There you go.
Wes:I'm glad we are on the same page because I'm like we are on the same page because I'm like yo. Some of these old men don't look like they have that old man strength that I keep hearing about, but I think there's a lot of men out here that be like yo. I ain't with the bullshit. I'm just ready to use this strength on somebody, not this strength and stress on somebody. I'm ready to unwind and de-stress and you gonna be the motherfucker.
DeLaw:Yeah, because they know what ends up happening is whether it's kids or whatever, older young adults, you know whatever. A lot of times once you get up there, up in age, like around where we are, we already have all this shit that's going on in our lives. You know, you're about 20, 25. You ain't got but so much. You're like, damn, I got to find a job, I got to do this, I got this chick I'm trying to take out. You ain't got too much stress. But once you get up there and you're like, damn, these bills, this house, this this, this job, fuck this, fuck that, fuck everybody. You know what I'm saying. You can be that one motherfucker. He just mad because you stuck on the shoe. He's mad about one thing. You ain't mad about it, you mad about all this other shit. You just hit it with the, the, the, the punch of a thousand other things.
Wes:That's bothering me, you know and now, at that point, it's like I didn't knock you out the shoes.
DeLaw:I stepped on little niggas and then you know, depending on how stressed out and frustrated you are, you might get all the time and just start pounding them, Just like I told you to stop fucking with me at work. They're like wait, nigga.
Wes:I don't work, we ain't at work, we on a train. Like I didn't listen, I was on a train or something like that. I'm like yo that bitch. Everybody moved like three seats away from that nigga.
DeLaw:After that happened Like nah happen like nah, and I told you go in your goddamn room and watch what them bitches do like whoa, whoa, like. Is that his kid? I thought he just said he worked with them like buddy going through some things.
Wes:Buddy going through some things. Listen to this, so maybe he's going through. Hypothetically speaking, this made up man that we just talked about dealing with his wife's 73k debt from college and he, like this motherfucker, want me to pay all this shit.
DeLaw:I feel like there's a story coming on behind us. It is as the music plays, you know, like that music in the back when, uh, everyone, I gotta tell you a story like oh yeah, the dream sequence was yeah yeah.
Wes:So, guy, his wife wants him. His wife, uh like accumulating like $73,000 in debt from majoring in communication studies. So he says she's been unsuccessful in her career. She has been mostly doing customer service, like older phone type jobs. She doesn't make a lot. She currently makes $17 an hour and she tries to look for higher paying jobs but is unsuccessful. She has only paid $2,000 of it herself.
Wes:She wants me to pay her student loan debt. Her argument is that we are married, so it's my debt too. I disagree. Is that we are married, so it's my debt too? I disagree. I don't think I'm responsible for paying someone else's debt, especially before I met her. We're going crazy over this.
Wes:I don't even make enough myself. I am the breadwinner. However, I make only the average amount of our state. I don't have student loan debt, but I do have other debt, like I pay for our cars and our credit cards and we split some of the bills. I just don't know where to meet her in the middle on this. I just really don't want to pay her student loans. She should have just picked a better major. Her degree is just so useless, especially where we live, and she doesn't even want to do anything communication or media related. She originally wanted to do marketing but got bored of it and she was just really bad at it. She was just really bad at it. Can she get a teaching certificate with a bachelor's degree? I know teachers that don't make that much money, but it'll likely be more than what she's making right now.
Wes:How would you handle that man? It ain't tough to me, but I want to hear.
DeLaw:I want to hear what you got to say, because this is his wife, right yep, it's his wife it's a tough one because I'm trying to figure out how do I file these separation papers, because we just noticed you're trying to give me the pay your bills, thank you. You better get an idr oh bad income driven thing and you start paying that thing back for 10 years. I hope they forget this. Shit, shit. What the fuck you mean White people for you? I mean, I'm not saying the person is white, but it sounds like some white shit.
Wes:I have no idea.
DeLaw:She acquired that debt. Same thing we said how were you paying that debt before man?
Wes:She probably wasn't. I let her go to jail, sorry, not.
DeLaw:I let her go to collections.
Wes:Fuck your brother up, yeah can't you file student loans, you can't file for bankruptcy and then go off right, that's the only thing that they want.
DeLaw:It's only through your. Only everything else. They were Only everything else. Yeah, they gonna get that.
Wes:They gonna get that money. 73 is wild.
DeLaw:Mine's about 73. Huh, mine's about 73.
Wes:Fuck man, I did mine, the old hustling as pimping way. I talked about it before I ain't pimping no hoes but I just worked really, really fucking hard not to have it. I worked full time and went to school full time and let the organization pay for it. But they was doing tuition reimbursement so I had to come up with the money. So I just put the shit on a credit card and grew my credit. Yeah, I told you, I grew my credit that way and then it was just I was flipping that shit. Then years later, boom.
Wes:Nah, listen, I know a lot of people got a lot of student loan debt. My wife in particular has a lot of student loan debt. This is really weird for me to hear. But I'm not paying. That I can't. It's not right. It's not fair to me. Like, when do you, when does when do she as an adult, take accountability for yo, this is what you did. Take accountability for yo, this is what you did. Must be nice to feel like you can just marry into a situation and be like well, he'll take care of her. He's the man. It's his debt too. I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no. My name ain't on that, so it's not my debt, so I don't know. Man, okay Listen, you've tried to help her get a better paying job so she can pay this shit down a little bit. See way out there your options, like you were saying, but there's no way he should be paying that or he might put something towards it, but she gonna have to.
Wes:Here's the thing I hate to be this guy if I'm gonna put something towards it, there's gonna won't have to sack. Here's the thing I hate to be this guy If I'm going to put something towards it, there's going to be something that you have to sacrifice. That I'm already doing, if I'm already the breadwinner. Maybe you don't get your hair done as much. Maybe we downgrade your car. There's no way. There's no way. I'm paying for two cars and the mortgage and we split some of the bills, and you know they ain't splitting a lot of the bills. If she's making $17 an hour, what's she really paying?
DeLaw:I need to get him a non-teenager.
Wes:What? Oh uh, dependents? Nah, but that's just more money in taking care of a kid. And what does this work?
DeLaw:dependents. Nah, but that's just more money in taking care of a kid and putting this in work 73?
Wes:So what? You ain't getting a lot back from taxes. You know what you say To help put a dent in that.
DeLaw:You know what you say to her. Oh, you want me to pay part of this. That means you need to go half on every bill.
Wes:She only making 17. It don't matter. It don't matter how much.
DeLaw:You think I'm responsible because you said your debt is my debt. Guess what? This mortgage is your mortgage too. That HOA is your HOA too.
Wes:Listen. You know how we talked about the. What do you call that shit? Damn it. You know how we said the damn it. Why am I losing my train of thought um the double standard of it all? Like you know that there's double standards that benefit us. We know that there's double standards that benefit them, and it's just. It is what it is. You're not gonna get around that. She's not gonna. She's not gonna go for that. She's gonna be like you're supposed to protect and provide.
DeLaw:You know that's gonna come out next, right yeah, and then when you tell her this, you cook clean, fuck and show her she probably, let's just say hypothetically, she does how about it? Let's just say, hypothetically she does she out there stressed out talking about some untime at work probably so let's just say, hypothetically she does.
Wes:I was an owl, she got this stressed out, talking about some untimely work. So let's just right, probably. So let's just say, hypothetically she does. What more? What could she? What more could she do? That D-Law would be like all right, you know what I'll contribute to, I'll pay this. What could she do for you? To sweeten the pot for you?
DeLaw:Listen to what I'm telling her. What is she already doing at Another job?
Wes:Find a second job, do something, but she already taking care of the house, that's, if she take care of the house. Nah, I might have made that up. She's not taking care of the house because she got a job making $17 an hour, so she's working. So you advise her to find a second job, or you chat 17 an hour, so she's working.
DeLaw:So you advise her to find a second job. Or you chat GPT and make your resume sound better and get a better paying job. It's too much technology out here at this point for I'm only making $17. I can't find another job. What's your resume look like if it says was cashier, morning shift help customers in need.
Wes:Yes, you deserve $17 an hour she was in marketing at one point in time. She found it boring, so she did. That's why she don't do it you know what you know.
DeLaw:What's boring about marketing? You don't make more money. That's the only time it's boring, because I don't know. I don't know nobody in marketing that's bored with marketing, because they all make a hundred thousand to a million dollars a year I'm gonna tell you like this I know what marketing, but I don't know what marketing does.
Wes:For you to be like oh, I wanted to do marketing, but Well, marketing is about as broad as logistics.
DeLaw:So there's different parts of marketing. So you have your commercial marketing with the way you make advertising and stuff like that. Yeah, you have marketing that you call people, go to their doors. That's considered marketing. Then you have the people who come up with the marketing plans and ideas, stuff like that. That's all considered marketing because it has to go through a stage of everything. Marketing is very I'm not not gonna say it's broadest logistics, but it's pretty broad depending on what you're doing. Like when I was at mathnasium I did marketing. Like, so I would make flyers and advertisements, come up with promotions, I would go to the schools, like that's all considered marketing. It doesn't necessarily give you any results until someone picks up the phone and says, hey, I want to do something. You know what I'm saying. So marketing is a commission-based job where your marketing is based on I mean, your pay is based on how well you market it.
Wes:I don't know. A homie might be up the creek without a paddle with his woman man she can go to a marketing firm she said it was boring.
Wes:So here's the thing. It's like yo, this is okay, this is where this is where, like if I'm the rare winner where I gotta kind of step up, it's gonna be like look, if you want this family or whatever to have more, I need you to step up and fix the situation that you created. So that either means you deal with the boring marketing job or you get a second job. But I will not. I would not put myself in a financial situation where I'm paying your shit as well just because you don't want to find a better job.
DeLaw:Me and my wife. We're at a point now where we split whatever bill we have to split, that both of our names are on, not just one. If both our names are on it, we split that bill, no questions asked. No, whatever we split it. If it's something that we have individually, that's on you yeah, that's on us when we were in Panama we sat down for that little time shift presentation.
DeLaw:The guy was like you know, you sure you can't squeeze out a little bit more money that you could go to these places and these other?
Wes:I was like yo, mama, am I doing fucking bad after I paid my portion of it? You could go to these places and these other.
DeLaw:I was like yo, mama, am I doing fucking bad? I said no, After I paid my portion of it and he kind of looked at me like you don't keep track of all the finance in the house. I said, no, I keep track of my finances and how much. She just needs to send me so I can pay the bill. He says, oh, you guys got a true 50-50. Y'all split whatever bills your names are on and then anything else after that is her money. So if she decides to burn it, she burn it. Here's the thing.
Wes:Here's the thing, and this is between me and you. We don't even have a true 50-50 and I'm still checking on her shit just to make sure, like yo, what are you really doing with your money? Because I'd be, I'd be goddamned if. Are you really doing with your money because I'll be, I'll be, I'll be god damn. If, uh, it's one of those things, like we talked before, I was like yo, if something was ever happening to me, I want it so difficult for your next motherfucker that you don't get me I want that for her.
Wes:You know I know that sounds selfish, but it's like yo, like, no, like I need you to hold. I want to be able to hold you accountable in all things, just like I would want her to hold me accountable. So it's just one of those things where it's like I ain't gonna never really let you slack. Real, for real it's because I ain't saying that don't mean I don't peep like oh, new purse came up in this bitch, or you ate out six times this week. Wesley knows.
DeLaw:I mean when they, women, just have a problem with spending money. They spend that money before they get. I'm not saying my wife does that. My wife, she's almost like me. She gets her money, she pays her bills and whatever's left. She's almost like me. She gets her money, she pays her bills and whatever's left she's going to spend it where she wants to spend it.
Wes:Yeah, that's fine, I'm cool with that, that's cool with that.
DeLaw:I ain't got nothing to say about it.
Wes:But see, here's the thing. I also want you to pay your bills. Tuck some aside. They don't do the tucking enough for me. You know what I mean.
DeLaw:So, like my coworker, she gives a check and she already, in her head, done, spent the whole thing. She's like oh yeah, I'm about to go to this restaurant in DC and they said that it's probably going to be like $30, $40 a plate for something. Don't that look nice? I said you ain't even been paid yet. I mean, you know it'll be there when it's time. What? Listen, I ain't never pay.
Wes:Yet I mean, you know like it'll be there when it's time. What I never listen, I ain't never even thought of, I ain't even know those words that you can put together. It'll be there. In that I either have it or I don't Like. If I don't, I don't.
DeLaw:But a lot of them, a lot of women, they spend money before they get it, like when that check is about to hit. They've already calculated how they want to spend that money and that's why a lot of times they can't. Now, some don't do that. They wait to get all this stuff and they live off of what they still have. Like my wife, she'll pay her stuff, she'll live off what she has. So if all she has is $100 left to her name in two weeks, that's what she's living off of. She ain't like oh, my check coming in, so I'm going to go ahead and buy this, this, this, this and this and then worry about bills later, because a lot of people, a lot of people that I work with, that's what they do. Yeah, oh, I'm going on a trip, I'm doing this, so what about your bills?
Wes:They'll be there. I can honestly say that my wife is mature in that way as well. It's just that I don't know. With me personally speaking, it's just like yo, if you got it a little bit, tuck it away, because you never know. When you have the flat tire You're going to need flat tire money. You're going to need emergency money. You're going to need like, oh, I actually need to actually send my mom some money or some type of shit like that.
Wes:Like and I guess it's a maybe some, maybe some women don't look at it that way, but as a man, you should always look at it that way, because they do. People are going to look at you like, well, damn you working, you ain't got thirty dollars to spill, or fifty dollars to spill, a hundred dollars to spill. You just spend all your money. I look about I'm not gonna say who it is, but I look at certain family members that way. Like yo, you should not be asking me for money. I'm your nephew, like what's you know what I mean like what's going on like man, and it'd be some short shit too, some shit that I think is short. So it's kind of like everything that I've seen as a youngster or a teenager or a young 20-year-old or something that I've seen.
Wes:I was like God damn, that sounds crazy. I don't want to be like my nephew looking at me like God damn, that look crazy. So I'm just not going to move that way crazy. So I'm just not gonna move that way. Yeah, I'm gonna try not to move that way, like we were saying earlier. That's why it makes sense for me to fucking stay in this house and not try to get a, a four thousand dollar mortgage right now, because it's kind of like one. Yeah, I went grocery shopping yesterday. I know I'm all over the place, but yo, I went to like three different grocery stores just because I was trying to like minimize the um, get the stuff that we eat at this out in this house and kind of minimize them, uh, the output of money. I went to lytles, I went to safeway, I went to target. So, okay, target, no groceries, lytles, safeway and costco did you end up getting eggs?
Wes:I did but only because Costco had an 18 for $6.99 $6.49. So I was like the going rate I've seen for some organic shit when you get organic shit like that was like 8 plus. I was like fuck that. So if this the going rate, that's what everybody paying. I'm just not eating as much eggs a day because remember I was telling y'all I was doing the egg whites. I'm not throwing them bitches away. It's two eggs every time I do eggs. I'm not doing five egg whites and throwing away the yolks, no more.
DeLaw:I see you just burning money.
Wes:Not no more. Come on, don't put me out there like that. I'm a fiscally responsible egg user and I will be that way until them bitches hit under $2. Hopefully sometime soon. But I spent $70 at Lytle's Safeway. I spent fucking $50. And then I spent $60 at fucking Costco. I feel like Safeway was a lot more money. No, safeway was $50. Costco was like. $way was $50. Costco was like $60, $70. And then, my dumb ass, I went to Target to pick up two things, three things, and left out and had to pay $90. This is all in one day, yesterday. And guess what? I picked up that Target that netted me nine. That not net, but that, uh, put me at $90. And I was like, what the fuck did I buy? Like literally at the register, and white lady looked at me. I was like, oh shit, that's what I bought. I bought three things, $90, three things. Did you buy ham or turkey? No, I ain't buying no food.
DeLaw:I bought three things $90. Three things.
Wes:Did you buy ham or turkey? No, I didn't buy no food. A steam cleaner Huh, a steam cleaner Nah, three things. A steam cleaner is going to be $90 itself. Shit, I get all the guessing.
DeLaw:I bought. What you brought was $30 a piece.
Wes:I bought some probiotics.
DeLaw:Yeah.
Wes:Okay, that was kind of like close to $20. I bought some wrenches because I didn't have any wrenches. I lost all my wrenches for some reason because I knew I was getting up under the car that day because it was nice and warm. And I bought some pants $90 fucking dollars. I'm like God damn man.
DeLaw:Can you put these pants back? I got something else.
Wes:That's what I was going to do, but it was already in the bag. It was already in the bag. I'm like God damn.
DeLaw:The pants was $40,.
Wes:Man, I'm like these ain't even leave that. I just needed some paint like some regular ass pants for work, and shit. I'm just like okay, I was like nah, I was like I'm. I was like wesley's about to limit all his fucking uh, spirited shopping, and shit, this wasn't even spirited shopping. Probiotics for the stomach, I needed a wrench. Yo shout out to toyota and their engineering man, because I was up under that, the lexus that I got. It took me a while to get this sensor off, just because there's so many things in front of certain things and I'm up there underneath that motherfucking doing micro turns just trying to get this one boat off, and I'm just like fuck, and I still ain't fix it. I'm like man, that sensor is not the problem. I got to figure out something else Doing all this shit. Just to be proactive, I probably spent what I say $90, $70, $90, $70, $50. Let's count this shit up, I feel like it was $300. I was sad. I'm sad. $40.
DeLaw:$50. I was sad, I'm sad. $40?, $50?, $40 for three things.
Wes:I spent $270 in a day. I'm not fucking used to that shit, but when I was going out to eat, everything that I would try to get was like $20. I went to BurgerFi and I didn't get a drink, a burger fries $20.
DeLaw:Starting to sound like a what do you call it? Five guy prices Five guys.
Wes:Yeah, it is five guy prices. And I was just like, cause I'm so used to like not that I got it like that, you know you so used to like oh, I want this, I'm going to eat it. You know what I mean. I ain't really looking at the price. Now I'm having to second guess and look at pricing and I'll be damned if I go back to McDonald's with some quick shit.
DeLaw:And that was one of the reasons.
Wes:We bought $10 a day or so. Listen. No, I just don't like prices anymore. I'm just like yo mac meal for 4 419, like yeah, I was talking about work the other day.
DeLaw:I was like yo, you remember when the big macs used to be actually big? Yeah, exactly, at least maybe big to us, I don't know nah, they was big man, pause, they was big.
Wes:But nah, man, I'm just going to back to the point where it's just like yo, I'm just wanting to. Eating out is just too. It's not even restaurant quality shit. It's just like the quick shit is just too expensive. I can't, in good faith, I can't do that. When I got food in the house, you got McDonald's in the house, I got McDonald's in the house.
DeLaw:I'm not doing that shit you know what I end up doing. Before I even think about going to McDonald's, I'll be like, all right, so what carryout? Can I get even more food for what I'm?
Wes:saying I'm not going to the carryout.
DeLaw:Not the carryout carryout, but like a not carryout but carryout.
Wes:I don't want to. I'm not doing it, I ain't doing it.
DeLaw:I'll be like we'll go around the corner to the tree and I'd be like, alright, we can eat this, get what? Get a lamb bowl with $10, my wife get a salad, some fries we might have spent $20 to them, but I can eat half of that and take the other half of it. I can't do that with McDonald's. That shit already kills you every time you take a bite out of it. Yeah.
Wes:And this might be another thing too, which is like a blessing in disguise. You definitely want to have some portion control. Do I need to eat all this right now?
DeLaw:No.
Wes:So I don't know, I'll say all that to say I'm not open. I'm not open, paid for 73k and students on that. If I had the money, like yeah, yeah, yeah. When I say I had the money, I had to be well into the six figures for me to be like sure. And when I say well in, I don't mean the scraping, the beginning of six figures of 100k plus. I mean I'm making, I'm pulling in 300k a year, right, or 400k a year, and yeah, what it would. You know what is it to me? You know what I mean, yeah, and besides, if I'm doing that, she should already be staying home. You're 17 and I ain't helping shit the way we living over here. You know what I mean.
DeLaw:So did you see the uh breakfast club interview with uh? Who was that chick's name um? Uh, what's that baby's name um?
Wes:emily williams uh, the old one about the bus driver shit no about the.
DeLaw:Uh, she did an interview, she did an interview, she, she says something and she came to defend herself on it.
Wes:Oh, about the mediocre yeah, it's the bus driver. Shit, the mediocrity of black people, right, right, yeah, no, I didn't see it, but I heard about it.
DeLaw:I was reading, I was watching like a clip or whatever, and in my opinion, and I read the comments, the comments were like oh yeah, you know you gotta speak the truth. Mediocrity, blah, blah, blah and average In my opinion. I looked at that thing and I was like you made a comment about somebody making a living being mediocre. Being mediocre because because he's black, from what I gathered from her hold on, hold on.
DeLaw:I don't understand what you're saying so she, so she, she doubled back and doubled down on that, you know yeah, I got that part. I heard that she did that but she, the way she tried to explain it was using webster yeah, I saw that, I heard that part because she was like well, I think we might have seen the same clip yeah, what
Wes:is what is? What does mediocrity mean and what does this mean, this, this and that? Yeah, I think with the, the majority of people's, the first initial uh um, shock, value, not value. But the first initial shock was, like yo, you're making it seem like that the people that have these type of jobs or the men that have these type of jobs aren't worth being with and stuff like that. And that's how a lot of people took it. And you got to remember she's also an attorney, so she's going to have her, she's going, she knows her way around the words.
Wes:And when I seen that clip I don't think we've seen the same clip when I seen that clip, I was like, well damn, I don't think she wrong. However, you know how sometimes, like yo, she was saying like the message needs to be this way and it needs to hurt in order for you to understand. I'm like nah, not really because there's a. It's a way that it's a. I'm pretty sure it's a way that the way that people felt was like you were talking down to them and that's probably what happened. That's probably what it. That's probably how most people felt. I didn't feel no type of way just because it's like yo that I didn't feel no type of way just because it's like yo, that's her opinion. She's going to live her life based off of her, what she wants out of life and who she wants as a partner, and this, this and that, Like if it works for her, it works for her, but it doesn't work for the majority.
DeLaw:So the way I looked at it was she came through to defend it but she came up with a different statement than what she originally said.
Wes:Was that so? Is that the same thing? When she was like I don't want, I'm not going to date the bus driver, I'm going to date the, the person that owns the, the bus, or something like that? Was that from that?
DeLaw:yeah okay so her meaning changed because then she started going into average just means what everyone does and mediocre means it's just a little. I forgot what she said, the definition, but it sounds like a little less than average. Yeah, so she was saying she wants somebody who's exceptional and dj envy was like well, my parents work two jobs a piece. Put me through college. I feel that they're exceptional. Now, maybe his was more feeling based and hers was more. I'm going off the dictionary, but how I took it was and just using what she said, not trying to make up some shit, I took it as if your definition of average is what everybody does. That makes you just as average, because guess what People get up? They go to work. There's attorneys you're doing the same thing that somebody else is doing.
DeLaw:To do this, you get the same thing, which makes you average, doesn't make you exceptional, doesn't make you extraordinary, it makes you average. And if you so happen to be in a lazy attorney, you pretty much just said then you're just mediocre, but you're still doing the same bare minimum that the average person doing pretty much the way I viewed her average was the bare.
DeLaw:You know, doing what everybody else is doing, if I didn't work like my boss and everybody else, then maybe we all average. So her argument deflated when she went to the definition. If that makes sense to me, if that makes sense, it makes perfect sense.
DeLaw:When she said exceptional. Okay, so she. So when she started speaking of herself as exceptional. I'm an attorney, I have a book, I do this, I do this. Well, guess what? I have a, I work a job, I have a business. Guess what? There's a bunch of people who have jobs, have businesses, that they make money and do whatever else. That still makes you average. It doesn't make you exceptional. Now, did she, went into how she felt she was exceptional or whatever you know?
Wes:what I'm saying.
DeLaw:When she said, when she said what she said, it wasn't definition-based, that she wouldn't date the bus driver. That was opinion and how she felt-based. And then, when DJ Envy started coming out, then she got the definition and said that that's what she was saying. Even though she doubled down on it, she backed down from it and tried to correct herself at the same time. See, just know, she doubled down on it, she backed down from it and tried to correct herself at the same time.
Wes:Right, see, just that, like what you were saying, and, um, like I, uh, I didn't see all of the uh, I kind of just like when that clip came about, I kind of looked at it a little bit and just, you know I'm scrolling and shit and I'm on the toilet, but like just from what you're saying alone. This is why I, uh, I think conversations like that don't need to be uh, uh, clip based or like what she said, her saying what she said, right, Like I don't know how long the clip was, it wasn't. Some things need to only be a discussion. When I say discussion, not a discussion between you, a discussion between multiple people, so the actual thought process could be you know what I mean not even digested, it can. The thought process can be on the table. You can work through those thoughts with other input and stuff like that, and not that you're coming to a conclusion, but everything's out there. You let the public come to the conclusion that they come to. That's why I try to stay away from talking like that and rather, you know, by myself and just have, well, you know, putting stuff out there and just have, well, you know, putting stuff out there and just rather have the discussion as a whole, because what she's saying ain't wrong, what you're saying wrong.
Wes:What she did was she. I think she just did it in the wrong way. Yeah, and you're right. Like, like, let's just say, all the lawyers do exactly what she do. Once they get some notoriety, they come out with a book, they do this and this. Well, you're just knowing what the average lawyer does. How do you see yourself? How do you? How do you go above the average lawyer? How do I go above the average, uh, cybersecurity specialist? How does you know what I mean? Like, you're absolutely, you're absolutely right. I is.
Wes:The conversation definitely should be had, but it should be a conversation. It shouldn't just be like this is what we need to do. It's like I thought it's conversation so people can understand what their pathway is when it comes to certain things, that they're more than what you know, what the society wants them to be at that time, that they can grow. That's the, I think to me, that's the bigger conversation that needs to continue to be had, not one. We need to have that conversation down. We need to see our young folks and including the adults or whatever. We need to see that conversation all the fucking time.
DeLaw:It was just the way that it came and I was just like, as DJ Envy was saying, his friend was trying to say how do you even fix your mouth? And I'm pretty sure this is how you want to help. How do you fix your mouth to tell somebody who works hard, provides for their family, that they do this, this and this and keep a roof over their head, make sure the kids don't even know that they're in poverty or whatever.
Wes:and I got to learn to fix them off and say that they're average and that goes back to what I, what I was, what was uh, what I was saying earlier, like being, uh, being in quote unquote the hood or the ghetto and shit like that. It told me a lot about um, like people's psychology or the psychology of people, like sometimes, like I was saying, the experience drives the choices that they make and and sometimes the experience or the environment I said environment, but the environment and the experience they could only see one, a or b. But a, b, c, d, e of g actually might be available to them in that same environment, but the experience and the environment and the influences and shit, they only see a and b, so they're going to make the best choice from a and b. It gets real, real tricky and and weird when it comes to stuff like that, based on people telling you know, you don't have to be a mediocre or average and this, this and that.
Wes:Some people just wanted to be able to be average. Some people literally I've talked to people like friends and shit like that they just want to be able to be average. Some people literally I've talked to people like friends and shit like that they just want to be a normal adult where they're like yo, I just want to be able to pay my bills on time. I don't want to be at risk of the foreclosure not foreclosure, but eviction notices and stuff like that. I don't want my car to be gone in the morning. So, yeah, if they got to do what you quote unquote see as average in order for them to feel like they just live in and being an adult and being proud of themselves. That's why I said it's a greater conversation that needed to be had.
DeLaw:You can't, you can't, just you know, I mean you can't just, you can't just say that I'm not going to date the bus. I want to date the person.
Wes:No, you can say that I don't care about that part.
DeLaw:The average mediocrity part I don't care about that part, it's the average mediocrity part. What I'm saying is that you can't come out and say that and then double back and say a definition, you, if you're going to stay, because in my opinion it didn't matter what she has said. It didn't really matter, because once she said that she's not going to date the bus driver Cause you know cause then that's Charlamagne and DJ Henry, or maybe he treats you good. He might be better than that person.
Wes:That owns you. We all know that sometimes that don't mean a lot for some people, like, yeah, I want you to have the money and move like I move and treat me good.
DeLaw:Well, she's in her right.
Wes:However, there's a fine line between looking down at the folks. I'm not saying she do this shit, but you know how like the internet is, sometimes the internet has a.
DeLaw:It really came off like that and I think it was just the nature of the question of I'm not going to date the bus driver, I'm going to date the person.
Wes:And that's why I said sometimes it's just. The internet has a collective consciousness of feeling when it comes to certain things and it's just like yo. I can see how that could be perceived. Where it's just like yo. Nah, that's beneath me. Sometimes it's the tone that you use and you can use the same words, different tone, and they'll feel you and they'll understand you. Those are good orators. They know how to say the same thing to get a positive response rather than a negative response.
DeLaw:She's within her right not to dig the bus ride. Ain't nobody talking about that? I mean, you already knew it was going to be a discussion anyway with them about the quality of the guy, blah, blah, blah. You already knew that. But that's her choice. If she chose to whatever, it ain't nobody. You know that was my thing. I was like, all right, well, she a good dude, but she had a thing of I want them to make this okay cool, fine, whatever. Hey, you want to do that. Doesn't because he's ambitious, he can bring more value that if you bring more value to his life but you're, he can bring more value to your life to help you move the way you want to listen, as the godfather said.
Wes:He said a lot of things. However, it's one of those things where he always stressed that it's going to be more of them like that. Then you know that's not what he stressed. He stressed a lot of things, but long story short um. From his teachings, uh, rip um, the men that are like that, they don't really necessarily want their woman like that. That's just what it is, and it's one of those things you're gonna find. It's less of us and more of them. That's what I meant to say. So it's gonna be. Yeah, you probably want to have quote unquote more bus drivers than than, uh, more attorneys. You know what I mean. Like she's gonna be hard pressed to find that man If you consider her equal, because sometimes they don't want what she's putting out. They don't want not her, they don't want that. They just want their woman to be feminine.
DeLaw:Feminine and not lead over her.
Wes:I'm not saying that she's not feminine, I'm just. I guess what I'm trying to say is.
DeLaw:Women who make that and how everything and just looking at it, you can tell that the only way they're going to stay in the feminine energy is if the person they feel that the person is of greater value than them or brings in more money, whatever. Yeah, Not them bringing the same or less, which you saw on that clip of her yelling and arguing him arguing DJ MD down because she wanted to get her point across. That's what you're going to get.
Wes:You said it better than I did. I agree you said it better than I did. That's just what it's going to be.
DeLaw:You don't find too many, like you know, and I love my wife. My wife doesn't make money. My wife never talks down to me because she makes more. She lets me stay in the position of, of masculinity and leading the house. She follows and she does what she needs to do to help keep it afloat with us, and I and I break my back and go broke to make sure that I take care, but I need to take care of. That's just how it is and that's why it's always so weird to hear certain women say well, I'm single and I'm career driven and I have this money and guys intimidated by me and I look at them. Every time I tell one of them I'm like I don't think they're intimidated by you.
Wes:They don't want to deal with you. They don't think they're intimidated by you, but they don't want to deal with you, don't want to deal with you.
DeLaw:It's a thing you know what I just thought of. He leaves like a dude to try and get you because they know you really want the money, but instead you just admit it I want a guy with money and he leaves off with it like I got this, I got this. You should come with me. You get offended that he's going ahead and telling you everything that you know you really want, but you want him to disguise it as and he really likes you. Right, you know you really want, but you want him to disguise it as he really likes you.
Wes:You can put that side of it Right. You know what I just thought of. Here's why that guy's just intimidated by me and my money is bullshit. Guys are the most simplest creatures on this earth, right? So it's kind of like if I got the money to do what I want to do and I'm simple what makes you think the more money I have is going to like it's not going to exponentially. My want is not going to exponentially grow. I might want a different type of car. That's about it. That's about it.
DeLaw:If I came into somebody, like the first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to just buy these bottles of liquor and then pay off the bills.
Wes:You shouldn't. But I thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna just buy these bottles of liquor and then pay off.
DeLaw:But I see what you're saying. I'm not going to do any unless I really just like oh, I fell into this money. Now I want to live as an adversary, so that's one thing, but if I get all this money, generally the guy's not gonna be the one to be like looking at the money like oh, we got the money, we can do this. We're gonna be looking like all right, so how do we make this shit last?
Wes:because yeah, because I'm simple.
DeLaw:I could like I I don't want this headache as soon as the woman sees it, it's like oh, can we get this? We should get this, we should do this, we should do this.
Wes:It's like so now you see this money, now you want to burn it, like the most like look, I look at that, uh, we got one of them lottery billboards and they're my job and shit. So every time I see that shit it just makes me you know, you know you daydream and shit like that and all my shit is always the same uh, house out the way, pay mom shit off, retire her early, because she only got what like what to maybe like 10 more years. I could retire her early. That ain't shit. You know what I mean? Get her a little house or whatever. Have you buy the things that I would need, like as a adult, to be functional and shit like that, and then the rest I could like. If everything is paid for, why you should be able to live off of 50k a year? You literally should be able to live off of 50K a year.
DeLaw:Yeah.
Wes:You literally should be able to live off of 50K a year. Anything outside of that well, I don't have children yet. Children is a different story but, like right now, me and my wife should be able to live off of that. If everything's paid for, we don't need anything. We got everything that we need. I'm not a rapper, so I'm not buying chains every week. I'm not a rapper, so I'm not buying chains every week.
DeLaw:Right, I'm not buying Lambos, I'm not maintaining them If I do anything out of the ordinary, but let's say I hit this big thing, besides paying off bills, debts, and I might even pay on the student loans. Now, when Biden was in office, I was like I ain't paying that off, I'll let him do it. I might have to pay that off but once all that's done.
DeLaw:It now becomes okay. Now, what do we need? Okay, well, how about we get a house car? Okay, well, let's get a four-wheel drive, all-wheel drive house car that can fit all of us unloved, so that we can drive wherever we need to go. Cool, then there is the and these are just out of order your I'm-going-somewhere-by-myself car, and we keep our regular cars that we already have, and those will be our everyday cars. So you got your all right. Well, I ain't gotta go to work, so I'm gonna take this car to go to to this zeta you know zeta event, or to my aunt's house, versus putting the miles on your everyday car, you know saying so.
Wes:Yeah, so we might have five cars out it sounds like, like I said, we're simple and the only thing that might change are the cars, or the cars, right, and just a big enough space for like whatever, whatever it ain't for stunting purposes more or less like okay, I want a theater room, and then we now have a house with a theater room, like it's going to be stuff to upgrade the quality of living, not necessarily like all right, I need to go buy a bunch of Versace Because I ain't going nowhere.
Wes:You know what I mean. Where am I going?
DeLaw:I don't even think my wife would be too. I think for my wife.
Wes:Your wife is going to want a couple of Chanel, so is mine. I already know that. Well, she will. I didn't say a couple, I didn't say a bunch, like where she's going to go continuously. Where she's going to go continuously, you know what I mean. She'll break out when y'all go see whoever and this, this, and that she got her Chanel on.
DeLaw:I think she would just be more or less, maybe one of remodeled stuff in the house, like if we stayed here.
Wes:Y'all not staying here. Y'all went to 100 mil. Y'all ain't staying here.
DeLaw:I'm just saying in general let's redo the rest of the carpet, let's do the yeah.
Wes:That goes back to what I was saying Enhancing your quality of living. Like that's all I want, because I only got one life to live. I want to enhance the quality of living. All that other shit is just like sprinkles and cherry on top of the sundae.
Wes:I mean I guess we would be doing, you know just like the water not water heated, but some of the other things just to make the house higher value, so we could just sell it. You're gonna take that money because I'll do you really care about making the house higher value when you got the money, sell it as it is, yeah, why?
DeLaw:because you're getting it back, but you could also just keep it. I put it this way for this way, so hear me out. All right, I'm a listener, so I already got the hundred million, or whatever they're going to give me right yeah, I do all the stuff I'm gonna need to do, pay off whatever.
DeLaw:Remodel the house, we get the new house for gucci, right, we get this house fixed up and we sell it. Because now let's say, let's say this happens somewhere down the road. Why would I not want to take another $400,000 and be like, hey, babe, here's $200,000. It's not coming out of my pocket, no more with the millions. Hey, here's $200,000 right here. Do whatever you want to do with this. So if you want to blow it on another car bag, hey, you get it and I'll take my $200,000 and that's so. It's just more or less just bringing in more money to do something else with that money.
Wes:But you said sell the house, why not rent?
DeLaw:We thought about it. We thought about because, even like our plan right now of staying here, 16 years refinancing, paying the house off, even she kind of was like, oh no, we can do that, but I don't want nobody messing the house up and if we get tired because tired because you know, if someone's not living here we got to pay the tax we're going to pay the tax on it anyway. But I get what you're saying and I'm just like I don't know I want to be responsible for maintaining something that got broken here or paying a management company to do that.
DeLaw:So I'm just like I feel you on that too so, in my opinion, unless we were going to give it to our son.
Wes:Like let's say so why couldn't you, have you ever thought about this? Rent it out and rent it out for however long it takes for you to pay the house off again and then sell it. So let's just say, hypothetically, $250,000. I know it's worth more than that, but $250,000. You rent until you get to $250,000 and then you're like time to sell it. You made $250,000 off of rentals. Now I'm going to sell it for another $250,000. You made some money. At least make some money. I ain't saying like sell it right away.
DeLaw:I mean we definitely wouldn't sell it right away. But let's say we did that right. Let's say we did that. So 11 years from now I'll be 50. To get another $250,000, I would have to live to 60. You will live to 60. I mean 70. I would have to live to $60,000. You will live to $60,000. I mean $70,000, I'm sorry you will live to $70,000.
DeLaw:Let's say, the market went up and people were making money and we were renting this house out for $2,500 a month, got a deck, all brand new shit, whatever it works, and we would have to do that for 20 years. That's 70 years old. And then we want to sell.
DeLaw:it's like in my head, I'm just like you really missed out on the good spending time yeah, you know, now, let's say, me and my wife got together early in life, in our 20s, and we brought our first house and at this age we just did the whole thing of refinancing and paying it all. In 20 years I'll be 59. I can sell the house then because now we can just take that money. After we already saved the 200, uh, 250, 000 that house, we're already living in another house. Now we, you know, let's say, the house at that point now is worth 400,000, 500,000. That's 700, you know, that's about 650,000, 700,000. We could just be like, hey, you want to just go ahead and move to a beach, you want to just, you know, you just want to move somewhere overseas. We got all this money, like what you want to do, but to hold out until 70, I'm just like, yeah, we would have had to have done that in our 20s, basically.
Wes:Yeah like at 60.
DeLaw:I understand and we can go ahead and get, because right now I think the house is worth 300 because?
Wes:because not only that, during that time you might have to go down and rent. So that is, I didn't even think of it that way. You are absolutely right.
DeLaw:So sometimes you can, sometimes you just got to cut and run when you can, you know you pay it off. You get your new house and then let's say that new house is only pay it off. You get your new house and then let's say that new house is only. Let's say we start saving up money. We finally get enough that we got like 20 000 and whatever you pay, you know, moving to your new house and it might, the house might be 450 000, like I'll stop split level. We sell this, this might sell, and at that time, as long as we keep it up and everything's fine $455,000. Take that, pay that house off. We ain't got to worry about nothing. We still working, we ain't retired yet we split that $50,000. You know what I'm saying. Both get $25,000 a piece to do whatever we want with. And now we Gucci. In my head that's what makes most sense. Yeah, in my head that's the best thing.
Wes:On. On that note, if either one of us win the lottery, there will be signs. There will be signs, and thank everybody for tuning in and see you next time.